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welcome to another free first hour

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to grow and starve the things that gotta

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go and we will reach the promised land

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in the 1930s president franklin delano

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roosevelt addressed the nation through a

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series of radio broadcasts known as the

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fireside chats his aim was to reassure

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the common man that our society would

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recover from its troubled times well

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we're far from 1930 and i deal with a

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different kind of fire for a new era of

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worldly frustration we offer a fresh

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conversation i'm greg carlwood and these

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are the higher side chats

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well this is the way higher side

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chatters coming in hot from sunny san

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diego and looking to help you solve even

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a fraction of life's wide range of

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problems i'm greg carlwood and sometimes

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i think that although there are many

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ideas and options we like to explore

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deep down we know that the big machine

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keeps marching on and the thing that

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will really make us happy and healthy is

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distance

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smart cities are just not going to do it

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and as much as they try to push us

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towards them and shove the teat of

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totalitarian system dependence down our

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throats we know these places are an

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archonic paradise not a human one

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but what if instead we utilized all

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we've heard about permaculture

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biodynamics symbiosis good water forest

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bathing engaging with the earth

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independence and self-sufficiency folded

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in the aspects of modern technology we

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decided could serve our lifestyles and

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built the reality we often dream of

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well that dream is largely the reality

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of today's guest mike winter who lives

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nestled among old growth redwoods in the

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pure pristine waters of the smith river

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off-grid alpha vedic farm under the

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tutelage of the great bear lando whom we

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may and together they run alphavedic.com

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and host the alphacast podcast he's also

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on the team of a forward-thinking new

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project dedicated to building a

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decentralized internet infrastructure of

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the future known as quartal but that's

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not all folks he's also one of the

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founders of music and sky a private

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wellness and entertainment gathering for

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families in the magical setting of the

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california sierras

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a jack of many trades folding the new in

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dream the dedicated decentralist

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holistic homesteader and permaculture

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podcaster mike winter welcome to the

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greg that was awesome man always love

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your intros brother and just so honored

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to be here with you man

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right on yes i try and it is definitely

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a pleasure i am a huge fan of the alpha

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start there because i know there's a ton

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to talk about but for people who don't

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know much about what you got going on up

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there talk to us a little bit about the

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alpha vedic farm the techniques you guys

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as i say on the podcast i wake up every

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morning and kiss the ground greg i moved

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piece of california where in actually in

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del norte county we call it the great

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state of jefferson which is really more

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of a mindset than anything but it's

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of like it like that

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very close to where they shot return of

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the jedi and e.t among some other films

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perfect micro climate for growing the

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smith river which is the only undammed

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purest rivers really in north america so

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from the big cities but also being on a

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body of water or on a water flow that is

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that special and pure because a lot of

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times what we talk about on alpha caste

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is the importance of water and how we

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really don't even understand what water

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mainstream science and by

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my soul is lifted and we drink from it

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we bathe in it and we use it to water

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yeah it's a magical place and somewhere

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we would love for you to visit sometime

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i appreciate that i would love to and

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the river was definitely one of those

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highlighted because i love the pacific

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of the completely compromised colorado

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river but the pictures i've seen of the

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smith river they do look great as you

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known as one of the cleanest rivers in

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north america and as you say water is

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austin a water researcher and water

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photographer and you guys talked about

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victor shawburger story where he would

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the fact that he could meditate near the

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river and get into this weird state

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where the water would carry his

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consciousness off and then he'd snap

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back into it with a knowledge download

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from the river and i just find that

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story really provocative obviously it

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fueled him to go deeper into water and

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veda's work sounded really interesting

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i'm curious how you guys do optimize

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got a good base level but do you drink

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it vortexed or implement any other water

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related optimization techniques

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great question that's really dr lando's

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forte and where his specialty lies so we

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water besides some rain catchment and

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that is been vortex correct and used not

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only through the vortex brewer for the

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compost teas and things that he makes

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but also used for his ormus and things

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that we create for our products and in

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doing so we are pulling from pure

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natural consciousness of a structured

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likeness that is really

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i guess you could call it the gaia

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and this water is extremely structured

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because of the way it flows through the

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bedrock and out through springs it's a

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spring-driven river

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so it is very important for how we grow

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but also for internally for our internal

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milo of our terrain because we are

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terrain specialists and and we could

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talk a little bit about that today greg

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but how important it is to be taking in

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structured water

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one thing that i like to do what i'll do

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is i'll take the structured water from

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well i'll take the smith river water and

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then i'll actually i have my own little

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vortex brewer in the kitchen here

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and then i will put some of our zero

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point in and that's like my morning

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breakfast really

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and then of course the other thing that

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bear and i are big big fans of

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wim hof style

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ice water dips especially this time of

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so i will go down to the river i have a

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little pool eddie that i go into and i

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do three minutes i do my breath work

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then i go in and i sit in for three

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minutes and unlike an ice bath which is

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more of a traditional wim hof method and

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i'm sure many of your listeners are

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familiar with the wim hof method

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which is the idea of right cold

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submersion with breath work

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most people will do an ice bath where

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they submerge themselves in oftentimes

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god forbid tap water with ice and so i

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feel like by doing this in a flowing

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alive river especially something as pure

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as the smith river or what we really

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should call the haiuchi river which is

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the native american indigenous name for

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it

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there's an information flow coming

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through information fields that dr lando

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would explain much better than i in

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terms of the waveform mechanics of it

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but

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my cells must structured water and my

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cells are talking with the river and

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getting information

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this is actually we talked about a bit

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with veda why

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animals dogs for instance will naturally

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prefer going out and i don't know if you

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have a dog greg but if you notice after

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a rain

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my dog loves to go drink the water out

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of a dirty puddle we'll actually prefer

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to do that than drink out of his own her

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own bowl in the house and that's because

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there's actual information fields

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attached to that structured water

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and what's exciting about this idea is

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what we kind of postulated with the veda

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podcast is that that could very well be

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the future of communication and i

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believe actually ancient cultures and

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technologies used water structured water

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to actually um communicate with each

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other across long distances through a

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more fractal holographic form of

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communication that is actually more

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natural for humans than what we're

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currently doing in the simulacrum of

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digital ones and zeros

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cheers to that yeah i agree water is

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definitely fascinating we know it can

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carry information so in the natural

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context in the holistic system why

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wouldn't that be a major component of it

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that we're

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overlooking in modern times but i did

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want to talk about your store a little

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bit because you mentioned the tea of

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immortality that was something i was

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planning on asking you about because

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that's a very provocative name but you

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also sell a lot of things broken up by

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the benefit that people are looking for

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from relaxing to longevity and i'm

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probably most interested in the energy

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and think categories to counterbalance

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my stoner tendencies because i can't

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stop mike but tell us about some of

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these things like primal essence chaga

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coffee illuminated gold super conductive

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minerals and

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gaesha chai

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so

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yeah i'm with you man i'm i'm a fan of

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the sativa personally because i like to

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go go go but yes in terms of the ability

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to

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and i'm not a fan of like the quote

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unquote bio hacking

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concepts right we're not really doing

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that we're just working with mother

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nature in how she was designed to help

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us out so everything we do is

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naturally derived from herbs botanicals

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we don't really get into the nortropic

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space or any of that everything is all

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from mother nature herself and luckily

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we have bear lando the master alchemist

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and herbalist who really is the

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formulator so this all comes from his

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genius mind of 40 years experience as a

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not only a biodynamic farmer but of

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course a bio terrain specialist where he

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has applied all of these different

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recipes if you will within his own

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practice and seen the results so this is

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all results driven

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empirically

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satisfied

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product line that's it like i said 30 35

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40 years in development

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but yeah in terms of the products i can

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give you a little recommendation greg on

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and to help you out one of my favorite

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like go-to

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booster thinking

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tonics that we have is actually our

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guayusa thermogenic and guayusa if

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you're not familiar with that is kind of

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like an herba mate it comes down from

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ecuador that we have a partnership with

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a company called runa down there and you

385
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may have seen aruna drinks in your local

386
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health store they're pretty popular now

387
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they're in like whole foods and stuff

388
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channing tatum actually it's his company

389
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he works with the indigenous people down

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there and basically allows them to run

391
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the business they have equity in the

392
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business

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so it's done in the right way and it's a

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less bitter

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more

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smooth energetic than

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mate

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and i really love it and it's actually

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what bear lando

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is a big fan and we blend that with our

401
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jiao gulon which is one of the best

402
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adaptogens in the world called the t of

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immortality for a reason and in the

404
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secret the secret greg is to blend it

405
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with coconut oil or or raw butter this

406
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has been made very

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trendy with the bulletproof

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trend which good old dave asprey right

409
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took to the mainstream but this is a

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thousands year old technology that the

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monks of tibet have been using with yak

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butter

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for forever

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and all you're doing is you're taking

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the caffeine and you're blending it and

416
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essentially encapsulating it in a fat

417
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lipid

418
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to allow for a slower release a slower

419
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burn of the caffeine so you don't get

420
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that peak that boost of caffeine and

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then the crash

422
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so it's a wonderful way to extend the

423
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beautiful effects of caffeine and i know

424
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in the health world there's a lot of

425
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controversy about caffeine

426
00:16:19,110 --> 00:16:16,560
and a lot of people have been bashing my

427
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my wonderful coffee of late saying that

428
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it's about as bad as sugar

429
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and just like anything if you approach

430
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these things in a way that fits your

431
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lifestyle in a responsible grown-up way

432
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and you do it in the most appropriate

433
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way for you i feel like

434
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we can use these things to our benefit

435
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and so

436
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with our coffee

437
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the reason why we have chaga and heishi

438
00:16:43,590 --> 00:16:41,440
wu in there is because they actually

439
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help with the adrenal fatigue that you

440
00:16:47,590 --> 00:16:45,839
get from caffeine so not only by

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encapsulating it in the lipid layer

442
00:16:53,430 --> 00:16:50,639
which i prefer organic coconut oil

443
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and not the mct oil that the bulletproof

444
00:16:56,710 --> 00:16:54,560
folks push

445
00:16:58,310 --> 00:16:56,720
once again we're all about naturally

446
00:17:00,230 --> 00:16:58,320
derived everything should come from

447
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mother nature so

448
00:17:04,150 --> 00:17:02,560
why do we need to break apart the pieces

449
00:17:05,510 --> 00:17:04,160
you know that's the reductionist model

450
00:17:08,150 --> 00:17:05,520
where we've gone wrong with like

451
00:17:10,230 --> 00:17:08,160
allopathic medicine let's use what

452
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mother nature gives us in its entirety

453
00:17:12,949 --> 00:17:12,000
because all aspects of the coconut are

454
00:17:13,829 --> 00:17:12,959
important

455
00:17:15,270 --> 00:17:13,839
so

456
00:17:17,590 --> 00:17:15,280
you take the coconut oil and you blend

457
00:17:20,710 --> 00:17:17,600
that and then with the chaga mushroom

458
00:17:21,829 --> 00:17:20,720
and the hishiwu those are very important

459
00:17:23,189 --> 00:17:21,839
tonic

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00:17:26,150 --> 00:17:23,199
herbs that help

461
00:17:28,390 --> 00:17:26,160
revitalize the adrenal glands so that

462
00:17:31,029 --> 00:17:28,400
you're not getting that taxation you

463
00:17:32,470 --> 00:17:31,039
would get with a typical cup of joe

464
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mmm

465
00:17:35,909 --> 00:17:34,240
i like it that's a hell of a pitch i'm

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gonna check that out

467
00:17:40,950 --> 00:17:38,720
so i i'm a coffee guy greg i've always

468
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have been so like my morning routine

469
00:17:45,270 --> 00:17:43,280
once again as i do that smith river

470
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water tonic with fresh squeezed organic

471
00:17:50,150 --> 00:17:48,080
lemon our zero point i blend all our

472
00:17:52,470 --> 00:17:50,160
zero points together and so our zero

473
00:17:54,870 --> 00:17:52,480
point liquids are amazing they're a

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liquid fulvic humic base so if you've

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00:17:58,789 --> 00:17:56,880
ever heard of shilajit i know it's

476
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become quite trendy in the alternative

477
00:18:03,510 --> 00:18:02,160
health space that is basically

478
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your humic

479
00:18:08,950 --> 00:18:06,400
your fulvic minerals that are naturally

480
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basically over thousands of years

481
00:18:13,350 --> 00:18:11,600
all your base minerals in a natural

482
00:18:15,110 --> 00:18:13,360
source on the tops of the himalaya

483
00:18:17,110 --> 00:18:15,120
mountains we actually get them in the

484
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united states in a very secret location

485
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very pure pristine location

486
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and then what we do though we put those

487
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within a transitional element base so we

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actually have them

489
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alchemically

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optimized so that they're vibrating at a

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more ceramic level not a metallic level

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which just basically means for your

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cellular matrix you can

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saturate your cellular matrix better

495
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than traditional

496
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even liquid vitamins

497
00:18:49,430 --> 00:18:46,480
once again this is dr berlando's

498
00:18:51,270 --> 00:18:49,440
expertise more than i but ever since

499
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i've been taking these for about 10

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years my energy is off the hook so

501
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i must say this stuff works dude

502
00:19:01,669 --> 00:19:00,000
right on right on

503
00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:01,679
wow well

504
00:19:06,789 --> 00:19:03,520
in terms of the farm to help people

505
00:19:09,110 --> 00:19:06,799
maybe get a better mental picture of the

506
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space how large is it how many people

507
00:19:12,789 --> 00:19:10,960
really live there is it just your family

508
00:19:14,630 --> 00:19:12,799
and dr lando's

509
00:19:16,630 --> 00:19:14,640
yeah so actually

510
00:19:18,470 --> 00:19:16,640
it's kind of unique and interesting i

511
00:19:19,750 --> 00:19:18,480
don't live on the farm i live in a

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little town

513
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right over the other side of the

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mountains i'm on grid because i'm as a

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technologist

516
00:19:29,830 --> 00:19:27,760
living off a satellite internet is just

517
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too difficult at this time

518
00:19:34,230 --> 00:19:32,799
so uh i'm fortunate to live in a 700

519
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person little

520
00:19:38,630 --> 00:19:36,640
town that just has a post office and a

521
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little corner market on the middle fork

522
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of the smith river

523
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and then the farm itself as the crow

524
00:19:48,470 --> 00:19:44,720
flies is only about

525
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25 not even that maybe 15 miles away but

526
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due to the

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kind of the rocky terrain and landscape

528
00:19:56,150 --> 00:19:54,400
here it's about a 45 minute to an hour

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drive and they're on the south fork of

530
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the smith river nestled in an off-grid

531
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community

532
00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:02,159
and there it's dr lando and his wife and

533
00:20:07,350 --> 00:20:04,480
then we do have our good friend shannon

534
00:20:09,750 --> 00:20:07,360
who lives on the property now and she's

535
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a caretaker and then we have people from

536
00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:11,760
the alpha beta community that come up

537
00:20:17,110 --> 00:20:14,640
and volunteer throughout the season

538
00:20:19,430 --> 00:20:17,120
it is a permaculture farm which means

539
00:20:20,390 --> 00:20:19,440
that it's built out in phases and in

540
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zones

541
00:20:26,230 --> 00:20:23,280
and it's actually the core space of the

542
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farm is only a few acres as of now which

543
00:20:31,270 --> 00:20:29,120
is actually a lot of a lot of growing to

544
00:20:32,870 --> 00:20:31,280
be done in just a few acres but the

545
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overall goal if you understand

546
00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:35,520
permaculture it's all about human design

547
00:20:40,870 --> 00:20:38,080
and phasing things out in stages so it's

548
00:20:43,590 --> 00:20:40,880
all zoned out appropriately according to

549
00:20:45,430 --> 00:20:43,600
as that how you develop that design so

550
00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:45,440
right now we have completed pretty much

551
00:20:50,870 --> 00:20:48,480
zone one which is about like i said i

552
00:20:53,510 --> 00:20:50,880
think it's about an acre and a half

553
00:20:56,310 --> 00:20:53,520
and that is primarily our jalgu lawn

554
00:20:59,830 --> 00:20:56,320
which are trellised under the shade of

555
00:21:01,830 --> 00:20:59,840
the conifers we have a lot of dug furs

556
00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:01,840
and pine trees that surround the

557
00:21:06,630 --> 00:21:04,000
property and we integrate it right into

558
00:21:07,830 --> 00:21:06,640
the nature so the farm as a permaculture

559
00:21:09,190 --> 00:21:07,840
farm is not your traditional

560
00:21:11,350 --> 00:21:09,200
monocropping

561
00:21:13,350 --> 00:21:11,360
it's very unique in terms of the design

562
00:21:17,830 --> 00:21:13,360
and everything is also geometrically

563
00:21:19,430 --> 00:21:17,840
designed to kind of mirror nature's

564
00:21:22,870 --> 00:21:19,440
cosmic design

565
00:21:27,110 --> 00:21:22,880
which dr lando is a genius at so

566
00:21:28,830 --> 00:21:27,120
we use a lot of geometry and also

567
00:21:31,510 --> 00:21:28,840
symmetry with

568
00:21:34,070 --> 00:21:31,520
how we basically

569
00:21:36,470 --> 00:21:34,080
take guilds which are

570
00:21:38,870 --> 00:21:36,480
how different plants can work together

571
00:21:40,789 --> 00:21:38,880
and help each other out so for instance

572
00:21:42,870 --> 00:21:40,799
we'll have fruit trees with ashwagandha

573
00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:42,880
around it and then nestled in between

574
00:21:46,870 --> 00:21:44,480
there are certain herbs and they all

575
00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:46,880
feed off each other and work together

576
00:21:51,669 --> 00:21:48,960
harmoniously

577
00:21:53,190 --> 00:21:51,679
bear is also a master at soil science so

578
00:21:56,149 --> 00:21:53,200
he does all sorts of different

579
00:21:58,870 --> 00:21:56,159
electrical polarization and different

580
00:22:01,350 --> 00:21:58,880
things he does with the soil to ensure

581
00:22:03,830 --> 00:22:01,360
optimum growth so it really is like

582
00:22:05,909 --> 00:22:03,840
going into a magical garden it's really

583
00:22:07,029 --> 00:22:05,919
more of like a botanical garden than a

584
00:22:09,830 --> 00:22:07,039
farm

585
00:22:11,510 --> 00:22:09,840
when you go and when you do visit greg i

586
00:22:13,190 --> 00:22:11,520
cannot wait to take you on the tour

587
00:22:15,190 --> 00:22:13,200
because it really is like going to

588
00:22:17,110 --> 00:22:15,200
disneyland

589
00:22:18,430 --> 00:22:17,120
it's really impressive sounding man i

590
00:22:20,870 --> 00:22:18,440
mean because i've had all these

591
00:22:23,830 --> 00:22:20,880
conversations with all kinds of really

592
00:22:25,830 --> 00:22:23,840
bright minds and the information just

593
00:22:27,669 --> 00:22:25,840
really doesn't go anywhere but it's cool

594
00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:27,679
to know there's a place where you are

595
00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:30,159
layering what we know about sacred

596
00:22:36,390 --> 00:22:33,520
geometry and energetics and cymatics and

597
00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:36,400
alchemy and biodynamics and even just

598
00:22:41,430 --> 00:22:38,960
good soil health as you say and

599
00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:41,440
efficiency and symbiosis it should be

600
00:22:45,669 --> 00:22:43,919
the goal but you just don't see it it's

601
00:22:46,549 --> 00:22:45,679
pretty rare

602
00:22:48,710 --> 00:22:46,559
well

603
00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:48,720
one thing that bear talks about a lot is

604
00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:50,720
physicians back in the day

605
00:22:55,750 --> 00:22:52,559
even pre-renaissance

606
00:22:56,549 --> 00:22:55,760
what some call the dark ages but really

607
00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:56,559
i'm

608
00:23:00,630 --> 00:22:58,320
coming to find greg that they might have

609
00:23:03,029 --> 00:23:00,640
been one of the highlights of our recent

610
00:23:05,430 --> 00:23:03,039
civilization if you start to uncover

611
00:23:07,669 --> 00:23:05,440
things like tartaria and these all these

612
00:23:09,909 --> 00:23:07,679
lost technologies that are really analog

613
00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:09,919
in nature and we really try to embrace

614
00:23:13,669 --> 00:23:12,000
that so like recently i installed some

615
00:23:17,110 --> 00:23:13,679
reikian

616
00:23:20,149 --> 00:23:17,120
earth pipes and um we're doing different

617
00:23:22,470 --> 00:23:20,159
kind of tower buster type technologies

618
00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:22,480
we integrate all sorts of different

619
00:23:27,909 --> 00:23:25,200
like you said sacred geometry patterning

620
00:23:30,149 --> 00:23:27,919
and then of course biogeometry is a huge

621
00:23:34,070 --> 00:23:30,159
influence on bear and i so

622
00:23:36,390 --> 00:23:34,080
yes the true alchemical sciences which

623
00:23:37,990 --> 00:23:36,400
are coming back and

624
00:23:40,149 --> 00:23:38,000
that's something that i'm really getting

625
00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:40,159
excited about as a technologist i

626
00:23:44,870 --> 00:23:42,640
believe that we are now moving more

627
00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:44,880
towards that and things like blockchain

628
00:23:49,110 --> 00:23:46,320
and bitcoin things we can talk about in

629
00:23:50,390 --> 00:23:49,120
a bit are going to be a stepping stone

630
00:23:52,470 --> 00:23:50,400
towards that

631
00:23:54,630 --> 00:23:52,480
yes yes that's exactly where i was gonna

632
00:23:57,430 --> 00:23:54,640
go next looking at the clock and i have

633
00:23:59,510 --> 00:23:57,440
tartaria and tower busting on the list

634
00:24:01,830 --> 00:23:59,520
but we won't get him into the first hour

635
00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:01,840
if we want to talk about cortl

636
00:24:05,909 --> 00:24:04,320
and this is one of the main catalysts

637
00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:05,919
for us getting together and we want to

638
00:24:11,110 --> 00:24:07,840
get it in this first hour i think a lot

639
00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:11,120
of our guests here oftentimes present a

640
00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:14,000
negative view of blockchain technology i

641
00:24:18,590 --> 00:24:16,480
understand things like controllable

642
00:24:21,110 --> 00:24:18,600
central bank digital

643
00:24:23,110 --> 00:24:21,120
cryptocurrencies and putting health

644
00:24:25,510 --> 00:24:23,120
records on the blockchain and the

645
00:24:26,950 --> 00:24:25,520
symbolic resonance of terms like crypto

646
00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:26,960
and blockchain

647
00:24:31,830 --> 00:24:29,760
but i engage with crypto quite a bit and

648
00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:31,840
it is the second best thing i've ever

649
00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:33,200
gotten involved with next to this

650
00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:34,320
podcast

651
00:24:39,590 --> 00:24:36,400
there's really impressive stuff going on

652
00:24:42,470 --> 00:24:39,600
in the d5 staking yield farming space

653
00:24:45,190 --> 00:24:42,480
basically taking all the money tricks

654
00:24:48,230 --> 00:24:45,200
the banks have used for a long long time

655
00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:48,240
and democratizing them with super insane

656
00:24:51,990 --> 00:24:50,000
interest yields you could have an

657
00:24:55,510 --> 00:24:52,000
interest bearing crypto bank account for

658
00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:55,520
example right now with like 50 apy

659
00:25:00,149 --> 00:24:58,480
returns or more and that's just a little

660
00:25:02,149 --> 00:25:00,159
preface for people who don't know that

661
00:25:04,390 --> 00:25:02,159
little secret because it's an aspect of

662
00:25:06,230 --> 00:25:04,400
my life that so rarely gets

663
00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:06,240
voiced on this show

664
00:25:10,390 --> 00:25:09,039
but i do see both sides of it and like

665
00:25:12,470 --> 00:25:10,400
most things

666
00:25:15,110 --> 00:25:12,480
that start to become tools for freedom

667
00:25:17,430 --> 00:25:15,120
the system co-ops them and crypto will

668
00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:17,440
probably be a mixed bag just like

669
00:25:21,909 --> 00:25:19,760
everything just like the internet itself

670
00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:21,919
and we're also not going to stop it so

671
00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:23,840
we should probably support the projects

672
00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:25,200
that will move the needle in the

673
00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:27,679
altruistic direction and with that said

674
00:25:32,950 --> 00:25:30,320
tell us about quartal

675
00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:32,960
that's beautiful man you get it it's a

676
00:25:37,350 --> 00:25:35,840
tool technology's a tool and we live in

677
00:25:39,590 --> 00:25:37,360
a dualistic

678
00:25:42,549 --> 00:25:39,600
reality and so

679
00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:42,559
it can go either way right and really

680
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:44,320
one thing that we're looking at in terms

681
00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:45,600
of crypto

682
00:25:49,029 --> 00:25:46,720
is

683
00:25:50,390 --> 00:25:49,039
humankind mankind likes to mess things

684
00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:50,400
up

685
00:25:55,830 --> 00:25:51,360
and

686
00:25:58,470 --> 00:25:55,840
read the bitcoin white paper satoshi

687
00:26:00,789 --> 00:25:58,480
nakamoto put forth in 2009 which was the

688
00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:00,799
catalyst for it all

689
00:26:05,430 --> 00:26:03,440
you can see the purity and the mindset

690
00:26:06,230 --> 00:26:05,440
that that came out of which was really

691
00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:06,240
to

692
00:26:11,510 --> 00:26:10,480
disrupt centralization disrupt the eons

693
00:26:14,710 --> 00:26:11,520
old

694
00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:14,720
manipulation of man through

695
00:26:19,830 --> 00:26:18,320
economics through scarcity through money

696
00:26:24,070 --> 00:26:19,840
and

697
00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:24,080
this is my kind of theory on where we

698
00:26:28,789 --> 00:26:26,720
need to go and why we're suffering

699
00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:28,799
this relates to everything right now

700
00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:31,760
greg the global health

701
00:26:36,950 --> 00:26:33,600
whatever you want to call it pandemic

702
00:26:38,549 --> 00:26:36,960
scamdemic pandemic whatever your kind of

703
00:26:39,269 --> 00:26:38,559
thoughts are on that

704
00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:39,279
to

705
00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:43,440
political strife the social strife all

706
00:26:49,430 --> 00:26:46,640
of it becomes from one singular place

707
00:26:51,430 --> 00:26:49,440
and i used to think that was debt was

708
00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:51,440
the debt-based system that we're in but

709
00:26:56,470 --> 00:26:54,240
actually debt is just an after effect

710
00:26:58,070 --> 00:26:56,480
part of the mechanism of something

711
00:26:59,909 --> 00:26:58,080
greater which is

712
00:27:02,390 --> 00:26:59,919
really the lack of trust and

713
00:27:04,870 --> 00:27:02,400
transparency humankind has with each

714
00:27:07,269 --> 00:27:04,880
other with our institutions

715
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:07,279
and with how we interact with basically

716
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:11,039
all humans inner species relations

717
00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:12,720
we don't have trust

718
00:27:16,390 --> 00:27:14,799
and that has to do with a lot of things

719
00:27:17,750 --> 00:27:16,400
but mainly it comes down to

720
00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:17,760
consciousness

721
00:27:23,269 --> 00:27:20,960
and the human condition is based upon

722
00:27:24,870 --> 00:27:23,279
lack of trust and transparency

723
00:27:27,350 --> 00:27:24,880
certain actors whether they be

724
00:27:29,350 --> 00:27:27,360
archonically controlled or

725
00:27:31,669 --> 00:27:29,360
the minions of arimon

726
00:27:33,830 --> 00:27:31,679
they're going to take advantage of this

727
00:27:36,230 --> 00:27:33,840
and the end result is

728
00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:36,240
basically a debt-based system

729
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:38,559
and when we have a debt based system

730
00:27:42,549 --> 00:27:40,320
because we are unable to trust our

731
00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:42,559
neighbor and because we're afraid of bad

732
00:27:45,510 --> 00:27:43,840
actors

733
00:27:47,590 --> 00:27:45,520
we buy into this

734
00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:47,600
using credit and using debt and it's

735
00:27:52,310 --> 00:27:50,720
really easy to go for this because

736
00:27:55,669 --> 00:27:52,320
look at the debt bubble we're in now i

737
00:27:59,269 --> 00:27:55,679
mean if you look at the last 50 60 years

738
00:28:00,549 --> 00:27:59,279
many keynesian economics professors etc

739
00:28:03,350 --> 00:28:00,559
will say that

740
00:28:05,669 --> 00:28:03,360
we've now enjoyed the greatest

741
00:28:08,389 --> 00:28:05,679
civilization success in the history of

742
00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:08,399
mankind look at all the growth

743
00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:11,039
but to what cost

744
00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:12,799
i often relate this to health into the

745
00:28:17,269 --> 00:28:14,720
allopathic model

746
00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:17,279
the allopathic proponents will say we

747
00:28:22,070 --> 00:28:19,440
have been able to basically vanquish all

748
00:28:23,669 --> 00:28:22,080
disease but at what cost we have chronic

749
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:23,679
illness at an all-time high we have

750
00:28:26,950 --> 00:28:25,760
depression at all time high obesity all

751
00:28:28,789 --> 00:28:26,960
these things and i know some of those

752
00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:28,799
play into more of the cultural

753
00:28:32,950 --> 00:28:31,120
aspects of humanity and the big

754
00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:32,960
corporations etc

755
00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:33,760
but

756
00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:36,480
with any ponzi scheme it can always look

757
00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:38,720
really wonderful

758
00:28:42,149 --> 00:28:40,559
on the top layer

759
00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:42,159
but when you start to dig a little

760
00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:44,000
deeper you realize how much trouble

761
00:28:48,549 --> 00:28:46,559
we're in and obviously what we're facing

762
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:48,559
right now is a debt crisis beyond

763
00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:49,679
measure

764
00:28:54,310 --> 00:28:52,000
and it's really tough right like it's

765
00:28:57,510 --> 00:28:54,320
going to be really tough to try to fix

766
00:28:59,269 --> 00:28:57,520
this it's essentially what most honest

767
00:29:01,029 --> 00:28:59,279
people looking at this

768
00:29:03,190 --> 00:29:01,039
are seeing now is it's there's really

769
00:29:05,269 --> 00:29:03,200
one way only a few ways out one is

770
00:29:08,470 --> 00:29:05,279
complete and total collapse into like a

771
00:29:10,070 --> 00:29:08,480
mad max world two complete technocracy

772
00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:10,080
because that's how they push the debt

773
00:29:16,549 --> 00:29:13,919
bubble along is more centralization more

774
00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:16,559
control more statism

775
00:29:20,149 --> 00:29:18,000
so they're doing that of course through

776
00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:20,159
technology and through the technocracy

777
00:29:25,190 --> 00:29:22,960
but i think the third way out is

778
00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:25,200
through a holistic model of

779
00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:28,240
kind of slowly moving into a parallel

780
00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:30,000
system and that's where we can talk

781
00:29:33,029 --> 00:29:31,520
about bitcoin and what chordal is

782
00:29:35,430 --> 00:29:33,039
looking to do as well

783
00:29:37,750 --> 00:29:35,440
but real quick on the technocracy side

784
00:29:41,190 --> 00:29:37,760
one thing we have to remember too is

785
00:29:43,590 --> 00:29:41,200
that technology itself is deflationary

786
00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:43,600
in nature we must understand that it's

787
00:29:48,630 --> 00:29:46,480
extremely important aspect to this all

788
00:29:50,230 --> 00:29:48,640
due to moore's law and the network

789
00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:50,240
effect and game theory and all these

790
00:29:55,510 --> 00:29:52,720
wonderful aspects of technology

791
00:29:57,669 --> 00:29:55,520
it is essentially always

792
00:30:01,110 --> 00:29:57,679
rapidly improving and getting more

793
00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:01,120
efficient and making our lives easier so

794
00:30:07,269 --> 00:30:04,080
if we can maintain a decentralized

795
00:30:10,549 --> 00:30:07,279
holistic kind of connection to it

796
00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:10,559
it can allow us to free up our time and

797
00:30:15,510 --> 00:30:12,559
not that i'm saying that this is some

798
00:30:17,669 --> 00:30:15,520
sort of utopian ideal here of technology

799
00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:17,679
saving us not at all but it is a tool

800
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:20,080
and it can allow us to really go

801
00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:22,080
to places as long as we do it in the

802
00:30:27,190 --> 00:30:24,399
right way to allow us to be more free

803
00:30:29,190 --> 00:30:27,200
and allow us to engage economically in a

804
00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:29,200
more deflationary way which is extremely

805
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:31,679
important because that is the opposite

806
00:30:35,830 --> 00:30:33,360
of what we're dealing with right now in

807
00:30:37,750 --> 00:30:35,840
terms of how we relate to debt and with

808
00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:37,760
inflation and right now really

809
00:30:42,149 --> 00:30:40,320
stagflation is what we're looking at so

810
00:30:44,950 --> 00:30:42,159
important to remember that technology in

811
00:30:47,269 --> 00:30:44,960
itself is deflationary and an example of

812
00:30:50,470 --> 00:30:47,279
that would be what we're doing right now

813
00:30:53,190 --> 00:30:50,480
10 15 years ago to be able to put out

814
00:30:55,990 --> 00:30:53,200
content like this we would have had to

815
00:30:57,909 --> 00:30:56,000
probably meet in person and record it i

816
00:30:59,750 --> 00:30:57,919
would have had to pay for a flight fly

817
00:31:01,669 --> 00:30:59,760
down to san diego

818
00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:01,679
you would have had expensive recording

819
00:31:05,190 --> 00:31:03,519
equipment we would have then had to save

820
00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:05,200
that to tape we would have had to

821
00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:07,039
transfer that and then people would have

822
00:31:10,789 --> 00:31:08,799
to be a member where we would literally

823
00:31:11,830 --> 00:31:10,799
have that delivered to them in the mail

824
00:31:14,389 --> 00:31:11,840
so

825
00:31:16,549 --> 00:31:14,399
now this is essentially free

826
00:31:19,269 --> 00:31:16,559
so that is a very important aspect of

827
00:31:20,470 --> 00:31:19,279
technology we need to remember and it is

828
00:31:22,870 --> 00:31:20,480
something that

829
00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:22,880
excites me every day i wake up because

830
00:31:27,909 --> 00:31:26,080
like i said earlier this technology is

831
00:31:31,669 --> 00:31:27,919
just the very beginning it's like the

832
00:31:34,870 --> 00:31:31,679
caveman version of where we're gonna go

833
00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:34,880
in terms of our own inert technologies

834
00:31:37,110 --> 00:31:36,240
within us

835
00:31:39,190 --> 00:31:37,120
and

836
00:31:41,269 --> 00:31:39,200
yeah greg i really want to get into this

837
00:31:43,590 --> 00:31:41,279
idea of

838
00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:43,600
this is gonna this is the perfect place

839
00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:45,360
to talk about this higher side chats

840
00:31:48,870 --> 00:31:47,200
because this gets trippy

841
00:31:51,269 --> 00:31:48,880
let me give you my little download i've

842
00:31:54,149 --> 00:31:51,279
gotten recently so remember how i said

843
00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:54,159
that the biggest problem we have in

844
00:31:57,990 --> 00:31:55,919
terms of why we're in a debt system is

845
00:32:00,549 --> 00:31:58,000
because of lack of trust and lack of

846
00:32:02,310 --> 00:32:00,559
transparency and we'll get into how

847
00:32:04,230 --> 00:32:02,320
crypto will be the first phase and

848
00:32:06,549 --> 00:32:04,240
specifically bitcoin and projects like

849
00:32:08,789 --> 00:32:06,559
chordal will help us get there but the

850
00:32:10,870 --> 00:32:08,799
end result i truly believe and this goes

851
00:32:12,149 --> 00:32:10,880
into steiner into the mystics and stuff

852
00:32:14,470 --> 00:32:12,159
is that

853
00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:14,480
we are going to go back to being psychic

854
00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:15,679
connected

855
00:32:20,789 --> 00:32:17,600
people like we were maybe in the times

856
00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:20,799
of lumeria and when we get there

857
00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:23,279
we're basically living on a blockchain

858
00:32:28,310 --> 00:32:25,360
in a sense of complete transparency and

859
00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:28,320
truth and in doing that the idea of

860
00:32:32,950 --> 00:32:30,720
money will cease to need to exist

861
00:32:35,590 --> 00:32:32,960
because we will be basically living

862
00:32:37,990 --> 00:32:35,600
according to law according to virtue we

863
00:32:40,950 --> 00:32:38,000
will know who is unvirtuous who is not

864
00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:40,960
to trust we won't need money anymore

865
00:32:45,909 --> 00:32:42,880
and in doing that our entire

866
00:32:48,310 --> 00:32:45,919
relationship with currency and with how

867
00:32:49,269 --> 00:32:48,320
economics work will be so drastically

868
00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:49,279
different

869
00:32:53,909 --> 00:32:51,279
that those in power won't be in power

870
00:32:56,070 --> 00:32:53,919
anymore and will be i'm not saying this

871
00:32:58,870 --> 00:32:56,080
is a utopian paradise but it will be a

872
00:33:02,149 --> 00:32:58,880
whole new idea of how

873
00:33:04,870 --> 00:33:02,159
we interact and how we engage and how we

874
00:33:06,149 --> 00:33:04,880
live in a much more harmonious virtuous

875
00:33:08,630 --> 00:33:06,159
way

876
00:33:12,149 --> 00:33:08,640
hmm i like it it's like the

877
00:33:14,389 --> 00:33:12,159
blockchain digital ledger is a

878
00:33:16,310 --> 00:33:14,399
sort of training wheel to get us back to

879
00:33:18,710 --> 00:33:16,320
that psychic space

880
00:33:21,190 --> 00:33:18,720
exactly and that's you you really said

881
00:33:24,070 --> 00:33:21,200
the right word ledger because really

882
00:33:25,909 --> 00:33:24,080
that's all we need a transparent ledger

883
00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:25,919
that we know is immutable

884
00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:28,080
that we know we're all in agreement with

885
00:33:32,789 --> 00:33:30,480
that's money i mean that really is so

886
00:33:35,350 --> 00:33:32,799
what is money money is the i guess the

887
00:33:38,310 --> 00:33:35,360
quantification of time right the idea

888
00:33:41,509 --> 00:33:38,320
that when you put forth time into a

889
00:33:43,509 --> 00:33:41,519
specific task or creative endeavor

890
00:33:45,669 --> 00:33:43,519
you get a representation of that that

891
00:33:47,509 --> 00:33:45,679
you can then use in the future to

892
00:33:49,909 --> 00:33:47,519
represent that time and if you have the

893
00:33:53,029 --> 00:33:49,919
right kind of money hopefully your time

894
00:33:54,870 --> 00:33:53,039
is actually increased and that you can

895
00:33:56,549 --> 00:33:54,880
get more time down the line so i the

896
00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:56,559
idea right traditionally is that you

897
00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:59,039
work for 40 years so you get all your

898
00:34:02,870 --> 00:34:00,720
your money saved so that you can then

899
00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:02,880
enjoy that time when you're retired that

900
00:34:08,230 --> 00:34:05,120
was kind of like the traditional nine to

901
00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:08,240
five the american dream of the 1950s

902
00:34:10,790 --> 00:34:09,280
right

903
00:34:12,629 --> 00:34:10,800
well i think that relationship has

904
00:34:14,790 --> 00:34:12,639
obviously been skewed and changed now

905
00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:14,800
where essentially that time has been

906
00:34:17,990 --> 00:34:16,399
stripped and stolen from us due to

907
00:34:19,349 --> 00:34:18,000
inflation which is really a secret

908
00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:19,359
hidden tax

909
00:34:23,829 --> 00:34:22,079
but i also believe that we can do better

910
00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:23,839
i believe that

911
00:34:27,669 --> 00:34:26,240
as inherent creative

912
00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:27,679
consciousness

913
00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:31,280
that our experience on this planet

914
00:34:36,790 --> 00:34:34,399
in relationship to time needs to be

915
00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:36,800
rethought and restructured and in doing

916
00:34:41,349 --> 00:34:39,520
so so will our relationship with money

917
00:34:43,589 --> 00:34:41,359
and that's really what's exciting about

918
00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:43,599
blockchain is that we can start playing

919
00:34:47,589 --> 00:34:46,320
with this because we have the ability to

920
00:34:49,589 --> 00:34:47,599
relate

921
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:49,599
different aspects of time and different

922
00:34:53,430 --> 00:34:51,599
aspects of our experience onto the

923
00:34:55,030 --> 00:34:53,440
blockchain which is just an immutable

924
00:34:56,950 --> 00:34:55,040
transparent ledger

925
00:34:59,349 --> 00:34:56,960
and so that's essentially what proof of

926
00:35:01,430 --> 00:34:59,359
work does it immediately sets

927
00:35:02,630 --> 00:35:01,440
transactions in time

928
00:35:03,990 --> 00:35:02,640
and so

929
00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:04,000
in doing that

930
00:35:08,950 --> 00:35:06,000
it's phase one it's phase one of us

931
00:35:11,270 --> 00:35:08,960
moving towards this far-off ideal of us

932
00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:11,280
all being psychic and being transparent

933
00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:13,760
and virtuous in our relations and and

934
00:35:17,829 --> 00:35:16,079
essentially living like the essenes did

935
00:35:19,589 --> 00:35:17,839
thousands of years ago where they didn't

936
00:35:20,950 --> 00:35:19,599
have money but they still had possession

937
00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:20,960
and they still were able to relate and

938
00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:22,480
do commerce and it was all based on

939
00:35:27,750 --> 00:35:24,800
mutual respect by the law

940
00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:27,760
so yeah very exciting times and the one

941
00:35:32,150 --> 00:35:29,440
thing i will say about crypto is

942
00:35:33,990 --> 00:35:32,160
probably about 95 of it is tainted it's

943
00:35:35,109 --> 00:35:34,000
centralized it's been manipulated and

944
00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:35,119
controlled

945
00:35:39,109 --> 00:35:37,280
and it's going to be very interesting to

946
00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:39,119
see where it goes in the next few years

947
00:35:42,310 --> 00:35:40,800
and if we are going to see a bit of a

948
00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:42,320
collapse or if we're going to be able to

949
00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:43,680
kind of get through that and move

950
00:35:48,310 --> 00:35:46,560
towards these higher ideals

951
00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:48,320
i don't know i'm not a huge fan of

952
00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:50,400
projects like ethereum and cardano

953
00:35:53,829 --> 00:35:52,160
because i feel like

954
00:35:56,069 --> 00:35:53,839
they're centralized and they came from a

955
00:35:57,670 --> 00:35:56,079
place of centralization from the get-go

956
00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:57,680
with the idea of an initial coin

957
00:36:02,390 --> 00:36:00,320
offering essentially fiat 2.0 where you

958
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:02,400
have the progenitors pre-minting

959
00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:05,200
pre-mining the coin having control of it

960
00:36:09,829 --> 00:36:07,200
and then having a staking model where

961
00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:09,839
based upon whoever has more shekels will

962
00:36:15,030 --> 00:36:12,480
have more control of the consensus i

963
00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:15,040
think that's man messing it up messing

964
00:36:19,109 --> 00:36:17,440
up the original vision of satoshi so

965
00:36:20,550 --> 00:36:19,119
with chordal

966
00:36:23,430 --> 00:36:20,560
what we're trying to do is we're trying

967
00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:23,440
to go back to satoshi's satoshi's vision

968
00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:25,200
of having a truly decentralized

969
00:36:29,109 --> 00:36:26,560
mechanism

970
00:36:31,750 --> 00:36:29,119
to allow for a new internet we're happy

971
00:36:33,990 --> 00:36:31,760
with bitcoin we think bitcoin is doing a

972
00:36:36,710 --> 00:36:34,000
pretty good job even though btc as is is

973
00:36:39,589 --> 00:36:36,720
not the original bitcoin we know in 2017

974
00:36:41,589 --> 00:36:39,599
was segregated witness it forked off and

975
00:36:43,990 --> 00:36:41,599
became something kind of different

976
00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:44,000
the bitcoin core team is a corporation

977
00:36:48,630 --> 00:36:46,240
running the bitcoin protocol and there

978
00:36:50,470 --> 00:36:48,640
are concerns with that but still i guess

979
00:36:53,030 --> 00:36:50,480
you could call me a i'm not a bitcoin

980
00:36:55,349 --> 00:36:53,040
maximalist but a bitcoin idealist and i

981
00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:55,359
do support support that blockchain

982
00:36:59,910 --> 00:36:58,000
immensely and most of my portfolio is

983
00:37:01,670 --> 00:36:59,920
btc

984
00:37:03,670 --> 00:37:01,680
but with chordal what we're looking to

985
00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:03,680
do is really

986
00:37:07,829 --> 00:37:06,160
reimagine what the internet is and so

987
00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:07,839
it's a completely different beast we're

988
00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:10,000
not competing with bitcoin we see

989
00:37:13,589 --> 00:37:11,920
bitcoin as a friend

990
00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:13,599
with chordal what we're looking to do is

991
00:37:18,390 --> 00:37:16,480
provide 10x value to the internet and

992
00:37:19,910 --> 00:37:18,400
thus allow for new adoption on a

993
00:37:20,950 --> 00:37:19,920
decentralized

994
00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:20,960
more

995
00:37:24,310 --> 00:37:22,880
human-friendly version of what the

996
00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:24,320
internet can be

997
00:37:28,390 --> 00:37:26,160
and in doing that

998
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:28,400
we're bringing decentralization the

999
00:37:31,990 --> 00:37:30,640
trustless nature the universal nature of

1000
00:37:33,829 --> 00:37:32,000
blockchain

1001
00:37:36,790 --> 00:37:33,839
and with things like community

1002
00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:36,800
collaboration cooperation and abundance

1003
00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:37,839
so

1004
00:37:41,270 --> 00:37:39,520
yeah let me know what questions do you

1005
00:37:43,349 --> 00:37:41,280
have about chordal it's a very deep

1006
00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:43,359
subject there's a lot to it

1007
00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:46,000
and i'm happy to discuss any aspects of

1008
00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:48,880
it for sure for sure and yeah i

1009
00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:50,800
definitely think that a lot of times

1010
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:52,960
with crypto conversations they can get

1011
00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:55,200
too fundamental like what is a

1012
00:37:58,390 --> 00:37:56,720
blockchain and all this kind of stuff

1013
00:38:00,550 --> 00:37:58,400
and there's so much out there that if

1014
00:38:02,870 --> 00:38:00,560
people need to be brought up to speed go

1015
00:38:05,589 --> 00:38:02,880
bring yourself up to speed but one

1016
00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:05,599
aspect of this protocol that i think is

1017
00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:07,040
interesting that maybe a lot of people

1018
00:38:12,710 --> 00:38:09,280
haven't heard elaborated on would be

1019
00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:12,720
proof of time or this minting aspect as

1020
00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:15,520
compared to proof of work which bitcoin

1021
00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:18,480
uses or proof of stake which is being

1022
00:38:24,069 --> 00:38:21,040
considered the next big thing help

1023
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:24,079
people understand these mechanisms and

1024
00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:26,480
what chordal does differently and almost

1025
00:38:30,630 --> 00:38:28,000
uniquely because i don't think i've

1026
00:38:32,470 --> 00:38:30,640
heard of another proof of time

1027
00:38:35,349 --> 00:38:32,480
project

1028
00:38:36,790 --> 00:38:35,359
yeah so cortal in itself is its own

1029
00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:36,800
blockchain it was developed from the

1030
00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:38,880
ground up it's been about six years in

1031
00:38:42,470 --> 00:38:40,320
the making

1032
00:38:45,349 --> 00:38:42,480
really kind of the original

1033
00:38:47,829 --> 00:38:45,359
ethics and momentum of bitcoin came out

1034
00:38:49,750 --> 00:38:47,839
of the cipher punk mentality right from

1035
00:38:51,430 --> 00:38:49,760
the 80s and 90s i always think of that

1036
00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:51,440
movie like hacker or whatever from the

1037
00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:53,760
90s you know like guys on rollerblades

1038
00:38:57,670 --> 00:38:55,440
wearing neon but

1039
00:38:59,190 --> 00:38:57,680
yeah it was really these underground

1040
00:39:01,430 --> 00:38:59,200
cypherpunks who

1041
00:39:03,829 --> 00:39:01,440
saw that the bitcoin model of

1042
00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:03,839
proof-of-work well ingenious on so many

1043
00:39:07,670 --> 00:39:06,000
ways and really we are fans of bitcoin

1044
00:39:09,270 --> 00:39:07,680
because the proof-of-work model is

1045
00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:09,280
important to understand and really the

1046
00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:11,520
proof-of-work model is based on

1047
00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:14,640
traditional classic economics of supply

1048
00:39:18,390 --> 00:39:16,240
and demand and

1049
00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:18,400
based on the idea of computers competing

1050
00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:21,040
against each other to solve complex

1051
00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:23,280
problems based on a specific difficulty

1052
00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:25,760
setting to allow for a completely

1053
00:39:30,470 --> 00:39:28,480
transparent and decentralized mechanism

1054
00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:30,480
of maintaining truth

1055
00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:32,320
on a digital network

1056
00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:34,320
what we call blockchain

1057
00:39:39,349 --> 00:39:36,400
an extremely important innovation and

1058
00:39:41,349 --> 00:39:39,359
something that i think will be

1059
00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:41,359
like the printing press used for

1060
00:39:44,790 --> 00:39:43,599
hundreds if not thousands of years i

1061
00:39:47,109 --> 00:39:44,800
really do

1062
00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:47,119
there are limitations though to proof of

1063
00:39:49,750 --> 00:39:48,000
work

1064
00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:49,760
in terms of

1065
00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:52,000
the egalitarian nature of it because it

1066
00:39:57,109 --> 00:39:54,640
does tend to centralize because in the

1067
00:39:59,109 --> 00:39:57,119
end there is a race for computing power

1068
00:40:01,030 --> 00:39:59,119
and the race for computing power

1069
00:40:03,349 --> 00:40:01,040
essentially means those who can afford

1070
00:40:04,790 --> 00:40:03,359
to buy the best computers and those who

1071
00:40:07,510 --> 00:40:04,800
can team up and create the biggest

1072
00:40:09,510 --> 00:40:07,520
mining systems will thus have more what

1073
00:40:11,510 --> 00:40:09,520
they call hashing power which will give

1074
00:40:13,750 --> 00:40:11,520
you more power on the bitcoin or

1075
00:40:15,349 --> 00:40:13,760
whatever proof of work blockchain

1076
00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:15,359
and the other thing too about bitcoin is

1077
00:40:20,230 --> 00:40:18,240
based on a scarcity model which is fine

1078
00:40:22,870 --> 00:40:20,240
which is fine for the mechanism of what

1079
00:40:24,710 --> 00:40:22,880
it's turned into which is a means for

1080
00:40:26,230 --> 00:40:24,720
securing a

1081
00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:26,240
deflationary

1082
00:40:33,990 --> 00:40:31,760
for basically digital gold right having

1083
00:40:35,829 --> 00:40:34,000
a savings account it makes a lot of

1084
00:40:37,589 --> 00:40:35,839
sense however

1085
00:40:39,910 --> 00:40:37,599
like any technology

1086
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:39,920
there are other variants and uses that

1087
00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:42,319
can be ascertained out of the blockchain

1088
00:40:45,270 --> 00:40:43,520
model and

1089
00:40:47,030 --> 00:40:45,280
one thing that we saw a problem with

1090
00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:47,040
bitcoin for what we're trying to tackle

1091
00:40:50,790 --> 00:40:49,920
which is creating a new hosting paradigm

1092
00:40:56,230 --> 00:40:50,800
for

1093
00:40:58,870 --> 00:40:56,240
really needs to be as egalitarian as

1094
00:41:01,190 --> 00:40:58,880
possible we want the network to be as

1095
00:41:03,510 --> 00:41:01,200
decentralized and to be run by every

1096
00:41:04,870 --> 00:41:03,520
single individual in the world if we

1097
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:04,880
really want to create the new internet

1098
00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:06,240
which originally that's what the

1099
00:41:09,670 --> 00:41:08,000
internet was right before the internet

1100
00:41:11,910 --> 00:41:09,680
service providers came about the

1101
00:41:14,230 --> 00:41:11,920
compusers and the aols

1102
00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:14,240
the nerds of the world would connect

1103
00:41:18,150 --> 00:41:16,160
person to person on the internet you

1104
00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:18,160
would plug in your phone modem and dial

1105
00:41:22,470 --> 00:41:20,640
in and go in one of those old boards and

1106
00:41:24,230 --> 00:41:22,480
you know the forums and stuff and

1107
00:41:25,430 --> 00:41:24,240
interact person to person through your

1108
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:25,440
connection

1109
00:41:29,589 --> 00:41:27,920
and we wanted to get back to that so in

1110
00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:29,599
order to do that we need an economic

1111
00:41:34,069 --> 00:41:32,480
model that incentivizes and that is it's

1112
00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:34,079
completely universal and fair as

1113
00:41:37,030 --> 00:41:36,160
possible so we were thinking well what

1114
00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:37,040
would be

1115
00:41:41,589 --> 00:41:38,800
the value metric for that what is

1116
00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:41,599
something that everybody has access to

1117
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:43,520
in the human condition what is the thing

1118
00:41:46,150 --> 00:41:44,880
that everybody can relate to and

1119
00:41:48,150 --> 00:41:46,160
everybody has access to and that of

1120
00:41:49,750 --> 00:41:48,160
course is time we're all here for a

1121
00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:49,760
certain amount of time right nobody gets

1122
00:41:51,990 --> 00:41:51,040
out alive

1123
00:41:53,910 --> 00:41:52,000
so

1124
00:41:56,470 --> 00:41:53,920
by figuring out a way

1125
00:41:57,990 --> 00:41:56,480
to not only create an egalitarian model

1126
00:42:00,309 --> 00:41:58,000
where everybody shares a piece of the

1127
00:42:01,910 --> 00:42:00,319
pie but also based upon something that

1128
00:42:04,309 --> 00:42:01,920
everybody has access to we're able to

1129
00:42:07,030 --> 00:42:04,319
come up with minting which essentially

1130
00:42:08,630 --> 00:42:07,040
is our own consensus model that

1131
00:42:10,870 --> 00:42:08,640
basically just tracks the amount of time

1132
00:42:13,270 --> 00:42:10,880
that you are running your own node

1133
00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:13,280
supporting the network so simple think

1134
00:42:17,589 --> 00:42:15,520
of it as like a bittorrent right a bit

1135
00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:17,599
torrent traditionally you put the

1136
00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:20,400
software on your computer and you start

1137
00:42:24,390 --> 00:42:21,920
essentially supporting

1138
00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:24,400
bits of everybody's data that's all

1139
00:42:28,390 --> 00:42:25,839
essentially we're doing but with a

1140
00:42:31,589 --> 00:42:28,400
blockchain attached and the blockchain

1141
00:42:33,109 --> 00:42:31,599
allows for the universal

1142
00:42:35,990 --> 00:42:33,119
transparent

1143
00:42:37,829 --> 00:42:36,000
ledger that is built in time just like

1144
00:42:39,190 --> 00:42:37,839
the bitcoin blockchain however the

1145
00:42:40,870 --> 00:42:39,200
difference being that unlike

1146
00:42:42,390 --> 00:42:40,880
proof-of-work where you're competing

1147
00:42:44,790 --> 00:42:42,400
with computers

1148
00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:44,800
to get the prize right the coin when you

1149
00:42:49,190 --> 00:42:46,800
quote unquote win a block

1150
00:42:50,790 --> 00:42:49,200
this is just everybody's pulling in all

1151
00:42:52,710 --> 00:42:50,800
together we're all in this together

1152
00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:52,720
we're collaborating together and every

1153
00:42:57,349 --> 00:42:54,480
minute that we have minute blocks

1154
00:42:59,670 --> 00:42:57,359
everybody shares a piece of the pie

1155
00:43:01,349 --> 00:42:59,680
so everybody in every minute based upon

1156
00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:01,359
how many users there are how many full

1157
00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:03,040
nodes are running

1158
00:43:06,790 --> 00:43:04,960
there is a specific block reward that

1159
00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:06,800
comes out and gets split across the

1160
00:43:10,470 --> 00:43:08,160
entire board

1161
00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:10,480
so what we did is we essentially were

1162
00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:11,520
able to

1163
00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:13,440
one of the big problems with bitcoin is

1164
00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:15,359
the bitcoin mining pools that have taken

1165
00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:17,040
over where they're taking everyone's

1166
00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:18,720
little bit of hashing power right and

1167
00:43:23,190 --> 00:43:21,280
spreading the block reward amongst that

1168
00:43:25,270 --> 00:43:23,200
pool members we said well we'll just

1169
00:43:27,349 --> 00:43:25,280
make one big pool and then everybody

1170
00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:27,359
shares and then of course we do have the

1171
00:43:31,510 --> 00:43:29,200
leveling system which we can talk about

1172
00:43:33,910 --> 00:43:31,520
which gives a sense of authority based

1173
00:43:35,910 --> 00:43:33,920
upon how much time and how much

1174
00:43:38,230 --> 00:43:35,920
basically you've given time wise to the

1175
00:43:40,309 --> 00:43:38,240
network and that allows for not only

1176
00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:40,319
further rewards but also voting and

1177
00:43:46,150 --> 00:43:42,880
opens up a whole amazing

1178
00:43:48,230 --> 00:43:46,160
opportunity for us to be agile and

1179
00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:48,240
creative in the ways that we can upgrade

1180
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:50,960
the system depending on what trials and

1181
00:43:56,309 --> 00:43:53,440
tribulations come ahead so unlike

1182
00:43:58,790 --> 00:43:56,319
bitcoin that relies upon the miners to

1183
00:44:00,870 --> 00:43:58,800
make these decisions on the future of

1184
00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:00,880
the protocol this is actually done

1185
00:44:03,829 --> 00:44:02,640
through a much more egalitarian voting

1186
00:44:07,670 --> 00:44:03,839
method

1187
00:44:10,390 --> 00:44:07,680
that still also does honor those leaders

1188
00:44:11,589 --> 00:44:10,400
who started it the elders if you will

1189
00:44:13,270 --> 00:44:11,599
who are

1190
00:44:14,950 --> 00:44:13,280
higher levels based upon the amount of

1191
00:44:17,829 --> 00:44:14,960
time they put in it so it's not just

1192
00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:17,839
pure democracy mob rule it's based kind

1193
00:44:21,030 --> 00:44:20,319
of more on a model of republic if you

1194
00:44:23,430 --> 00:44:21,040
will

1195
00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:23,440
where those who have put more time that

1196
00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:25,280
are more knowledgeable have a little bit

1197
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:27,359
more weight on the voting

1198
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:29,520
so that in essence is kind of what we

1199
00:44:34,390 --> 00:44:32,400
developed it's a lot more to it but it's

1200
00:44:36,390 --> 00:44:34,400
fun anybody can jump in right now and

1201
00:44:38,870 --> 00:44:36,400
once you've proven yourself

1202
00:44:41,109 --> 00:44:38,880
over 7 200 blocks or that's about five

1203
00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:41,119
days of running the blockchain you get

1204
00:44:45,190 --> 00:44:43,440
sponsored by someone who's level five or

1205
00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:45,200
above it's kind of a little protection

1206
00:44:49,030 --> 00:44:47,520
mechanism so you need to find an elder

1207
00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:49,040
who will allow you to come into the

1208
00:44:53,910 --> 00:44:52,560
tribe and it's very easy to do basically

1209
00:44:56,550 --> 00:44:53,920
you just prove you're a real human being

1210
00:44:59,750 --> 00:44:56,560
and that you want to be a part and then

1211
00:45:01,589 --> 00:44:59,760
you run the node your node for 7 200

1212
00:45:04,309 --> 00:45:01,599
blocks and then you hit level one and

1213
00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:04,319
then every minute you start earning coin

1214
00:45:08,309 --> 00:45:06,480
and you can take part in the beautiful

1215
00:45:10,950 --> 00:45:08,319
thing that is quartal

1216
00:45:13,270 --> 00:45:10,960
yes yes that is a great summary and of

1217
00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:13,280
course it's not all about getting rich

1218
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:15,839
but when someone minds bitcoin they're

1219
00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:19,200
in it for the reward which is that token

1220
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:22,079
and quartal uses the court token i know

1221
00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:24,240
your liquidity pairs right now are

1222
00:45:31,030 --> 00:45:27,599
litecoin and doge and court trades at

1223
00:45:34,390 --> 00:45:31,040
about a dollar 46

1224
00:45:37,030 --> 00:45:34,400
according to your decentralized exchange

1225
00:45:40,309 --> 00:45:37,040
platform and you have people running

1226
00:45:42,550 --> 00:45:40,319
their nodes and building up 30 40 even a

1227
00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:42,560
hundred thousand court

1228
00:45:45,510 --> 00:45:43,520
and

1229
00:45:48,230 --> 00:45:45,520
not that this is just about money but

1230
00:45:49,990 --> 00:45:48,240
that sounds like real money man and i'm

1231
00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:50,000
still trying to work out

1232
00:45:54,550 --> 00:45:51,520
how this all

1233
00:45:57,750 --> 00:45:54,560
would play out for a newbie because it

1234
00:46:01,349 --> 00:45:57,760
seems like level one would receive five

1235
00:46:02,710 --> 00:46:01,359
percent of the block rewards and

1236
00:46:05,910 --> 00:46:02,720
you said

1237
00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:05,920
7 200 blocks takes about five days so

1238
00:46:12,309 --> 00:46:10,240
dividing that down it's like 1440 a day

1239
00:46:15,270 --> 00:46:12,319
uh it's just it starts to get kind of

1240
00:46:18,069 --> 00:46:15,280
complicated but i was unsure how much

1241
00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:18,079
court is distributed per block

1242
00:46:24,550 --> 00:46:20,880
and just what sort of court yield would

1243
00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:24,560
a level one person see in say a 30-day

1244
00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:26,640
period just for running a node on their

1245
00:46:30,790 --> 00:46:29,040
pc consistently

1246
00:46:33,030 --> 00:46:30,800
yeah that's a great question and of

1247
00:46:34,870 --> 00:46:33,040
course there's a lot of factors that

1248
00:46:37,349 --> 00:46:34,880
play because it depends on how many

1249
00:46:39,109 --> 00:46:37,359
nodes are running at the same time and

1250
00:46:42,630 --> 00:46:39,119
this is really built upon the network

1251
00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:42,640
effect so the beauty of the abundance

1252
00:46:47,190 --> 00:46:45,040
model the sharing model is that

1253
00:46:48,870 --> 00:46:47,200
the ideally here and another note you

1254
00:46:52,230 --> 00:46:48,880
kind of mentioned briefly greg is that

1255
00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:52,240
we are not on any centralized exchanges

1256
00:46:56,150 --> 00:46:53,680
the only way that you can get into

1257
00:46:58,790 --> 00:46:56,160
chordal is either by minting or by

1258
00:47:01,430 --> 00:46:58,800
coming in with currently doge or

1259
00:47:03,349 --> 00:47:01,440
litecoin we will be adding other

1260
00:47:05,670 --> 00:47:03,359
projects that we see are decentralized

1261
00:47:09,349 --> 00:47:05,680
enough to bring in so

1262
00:47:11,109 --> 00:47:09,359
ravencoin digibyte our other partner

1263
00:47:12,550 --> 00:47:11,119
that we're really aligned with is pirate

1264
00:47:15,109 --> 00:47:12,560
chain if you're familiar with them which

1265
00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:15,119
is a wonderful privacy coin

1266
00:47:18,470 --> 00:47:17,280
and so we are working with

1267
00:47:19,270 --> 00:47:18,480
monero

1268
00:47:21,190 --> 00:47:19,280
and

1269
00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:21,200
pirate chain to bring them in to give

1270
00:47:28,069 --> 00:47:24,800
some privacy options as well but yeah if

1271
00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:28,079
you go to the chordal wiki it has all

1272
00:47:33,190 --> 00:47:29,760
that information you can look at the

1273
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:33,200
reward structure and how that works

1274
00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:37,040
now chordal has been around we've been

1275
00:47:41,510 --> 00:47:39,119
we will be going on a year and a half

1276
00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:41,520
two years now almost of running the

1277
00:47:46,150 --> 00:47:44,720
blockchain and the founders we did not

1278
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:46,160
pre-mine anything there was no

1279
00:47:49,109 --> 00:47:48,000
pre-minting you you basically started

1280
00:47:51,109 --> 00:47:49,119
day one

1281
00:47:52,790 --> 00:47:51,119
and those who were running nodes were

1282
00:47:55,510 --> 00:47:52,800
getting a bigger piece of the pie

1283
00:47:57,190 --> 00:47:55,520
because they were early adopters so

1284
00:47:59,349 --> 00:47:57,200
that's why you're seeing some of those

1285
00:48:01,109 --> 00:47:59,359
larger coin holders

1286
00:48:04,870 --> 00:48:01,119
able to put those buys out and those

1287
00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:04,880
cells out because they were early on but

1288
00:48:08,470 --> 00:48:06,480
i want to be very clear there was no

1289
00:48:10,390 --> 00:48:08,480
pre-mine or anything it's like a proof

1290
00:48:11,750 --> 00:48:10,400
of work in a sense we had a genesis

1291
00:48:13,270 --> 00:48:11,760
block and then everybody was able to

1292
00:48:15,829 --> 00:48:13,280
join the network and start sharing in

1293
00:48:18,710 --> 00:48:15,839
the rewards every minute but if you go

1294
00:48:20,390 --> 00:48:18,720
to the chordal wiki page and you look at

1295
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:20,400
the minting overview

1296
00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:21,839
they have the block rewards and

1297
00:48:27,349 --> 00:48:24,160
distribution laid out there

1298
00:48:29,030 --> 00:48:27,359
and so it does depend upon like how many

1299
00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:29,040
nodes are running and we're getting you

1300
00:48:33,190 --> 00:48:30,880
know we have more full nodes running on

1301
00:48:34,950 --> 00:48:33,200
our network than litecoin does now

1302
00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:34,960
which is pretty fascinating considering

1303
00:48:38,790 --> 00:48:37,280
how much of a legacy blockchain that is

1304
00:48:40,630 --> 00:48:38,800
and kind of worrying if you start to

1305
00:48:42,309 --> 00:48:40,640
think about it in terms of something as

1306
00:48:43,589 --> 00:48:42,319
big as litecoin

1307
00:48:45,910 --> 00:48:43,599
but

1308
00:48:47,750 --> 00:48:45,920
the way it works is like and this is a

1309
00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:47,760
great question and i'm probably not the

1310
00:48:52,710 --> 00:48:49,760
best person to ask and i think i would

1311
00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:52,720
love for you to have jason crowe on

1312
00:48:55,910 --> 00:48:54,480
he is really the technologist and the

1313
00:48:57,589 --> 00:48:55,920
person who

1314
00:48:59,829 --> 00:48:57,599
really was like the guy who brought this

1315
00:49:02,470 --> 00:48:59,839
all together with the coders and he's

1316
00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:02,480
much more knowledgeable about how those

1317
00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:04,800
rewards would work in terms of

1318
00:49:10,309 --> 00:49:08,160
practicalities but i would say

1319
00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:10,319
in a month's time considering my

1320
00:49:14,790 --> 00:49:12,480
eight-year-old is doing it

1321
00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:14,800
just from practicality from what he's

1322
00:49:19,670 --> 00:49:18,240
seen he's earned only about i would say

1323
00:49:20,710 --> 00:49:19,680
five or six

1324
00:49:22,790 --> 00:49:20,720
coin

1325
00:49:25,109 --> 00:49:22,800
court in that month's time

1326
00:49:28,069 --> 00:49:25,119
so it's not a ton

1327
00:49:30,790 --> 00:49:28,079
however the idea here is

1328
00:49:33,190 --> 00:49:30,800
with the network effect we're looking i

1329
00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:33,200
mean ideally what i'm looking at is

1330
00:49:38,150 --> 00:49:36,400
court hitting going from a dollar ten to

1331
00:49:40,870 --> 00:49:38,160
exponential growth for the next year to

1332
00:49:42,630 --> 00:49:40,880
hitting easily 10 to 15 dollars a coin

1333
00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:42,640
by next summer

1334
00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:44,800
i think with the way crypto's going i

1335
00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:46,720
wouldn't be surprised if it starts to

1336
00:49:51,190 --> 00:49:49,200
hit a hundred dollars a coin within

1337
00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:51,200
a little over a year with the way the

1338
00:49:54,870 --> 00:49:52,960
model is working so

1339
00:49:56,710 --> 00:49:54,880
it's an amazing way to get in right now

1340
00:49:58,710 --> 00:49:56,720
and we know how crypto works

1341
00:50:01,030 --> 00:49:58,720
with how the centralized markets work

1342
00:50:03,030 --> 00:50:01,040
with the pump and up schemes and and all

1343
00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:03,040
of those ploys we've tried to stay out

1344
00:50:07,990 --> 00:50:05,200
of that as much as we can we're not into

1345
00:50:10,710 --> 00:50:08,000
the casino crypto racket we're really

1346
00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:10,720
all about adoption we're about utility

1347
00:50:14,950 --> 00:50:12,960
so in the end the court coin is really

1348
00:50:17,589 --> 00:50:14,960
just a utility coin

1349
00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:17,599
it'll be used for the services and then

1350
00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:19,520
down the line we will launch the ability

1351
00:50:24,150 --> 00:50:22,000
to create assets and so that those who

1352
00:50:27,349 --> 00:50:24,160
want to develop new economic models a

1353
00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:27,359
new kind of unique methodologies for how

1354
00:50:30,630 --> 00:50:29,680
economies can work we can do that all on

1355
00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:30,640
chordal

1356
00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:31,680
so

1357
00:50:34,870 --> 00:50:33,440
you know if you wanted to even i know a

1358
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:34,880
lot of projects do this but if you

1359
00:50:39,270 --> 00:50:36,960
wanted to you know put out the higher

1360
00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:39,280
side chat coin you could easily do that

1361
00:50:44,309 --> 00:50:41,440
as an asset and then it would still be

1362
00:50:46,549 --> 00:50:44,319
based on the proof of time model

1363
00:50:48,710 --> 00:50:46,559
however we will allow though down the

1364
00:50:51,109 --> 00:50:48,720
line like for instance i'm working on a

1365
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:51,119
proof of experience model that would use

1366
00:50:55,190 --> 00:50:52,400
the court

1367
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:55,200
sub architecture in terms of the hosting

1368
00:50:59,349 --> 00:50:56,880
and the data hosting

1369
00:51:02,390 --> 00:50:59,359
as the substructure but then have a kind

1370
00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:02,400
of a different consensus algo on top of

1371
00:51:08,230 --> 00:51:04,640
that in terms of an actual economic

1372
00:51:10,549 --> 00:51:08,240
model built upon sharing experiences

1373
00:51:13,510 --> 00:51:10,559
so exciting stuff really this will be

1374
00:51:15,670 --> 00:51:13,520
the sub-level layer of the data hosting

1375
00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:15,680
and the web hosting

1376
00:51:19,990 --> 00:51:17,280
and one other thing that's really unique

1377
00:51:23,349 --> 00:51:20,000
about chordal 2 is you

1378
00:51:24,790 --> 00:51:23,359
define your own name to your single

1379
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:24,800
public address now you can create as

1380
00:51:28,630 --> 00:51:26,720
many accounts as you want as many

1381
00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:28,640
addresses as you want but your one

1382
00:51:32,950 --> 00:51:30,640
account basically there's one public

1383
00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:32,960
address per account and then there you

1384
00:51:38,069 --> 00:51:34,800
can register a name and that name will

1385
00:51:39,990 --> 00:51:38,079
be individually unique on the blockchain

1386
00:51:41,670 --> 00:51:40,000
and that is going to be the hosts the

1387
00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:41,680
host names the domain names of the

1388
00:51:45,030 --> 00:51:42,880
future

1389
00:51:48,150 --> 00:51:45,040
so very exciting because we are

1390
00:51:50,230 --> 00:51:48,160
basically taking out the icann

1391
00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:50,240
centralized model that we know during

1392
00:51:53,109 --> 00:51:52,000
the obama administration was given to

1393
00:51:55,190 --> 00:51:53,119
the un

1394
00:51:57,030 --> 00:51:55,200
which is a huge choke point for the

1395
00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:57,040
future for free speech on the

1396
00:51:59,910 --> 00:51:59,040
traditional internet

1397
00:52:02,390 --> 00:51:59,920
yes

1398
00:52:04,470 --> 00:52:02,400
very exciting stuff probably a little

1399
00:52:06,630 --> 00:52:04,480
dense for some people in this audience

1400
00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:06,640
but it's a wide net of people that

1401
00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:08,240
listen to the show and i'm sure some are

1402
00:52:10,950 --> 00:52:09,760
onto this stuff

1403
00:52:13,190 --> 00:52:10,960
you can be

1404
00:52:16,069 --> 00:52:13,200
scared of it and skeptical of it but

1405
00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:16,079
this crypto thing is happening and just

1406
00:52:21,190 --> 00:52:18,480
like the internet happened if you had

1407
00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:21,200
paid better attention to the

1408
00:52:25,829 --> 00:52:23,520
first steps of that technology you

1409
00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:25,839
probably would be retired right now and

1410
00:52:31,030 --> 00:52:28,000
i think the same can be said for crypto

1411
00:52:33,270 --> 00:52:31,040
and not every project has a nefarious

1412
00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:33,280
intention in fact most of them don't the

1413
00:52:37,990 --> 00:52:35,040
ones that have

1414
00:52:40,870 --> 00:52:38,000
kind of uh sketchy funding and get the

1415
00:52:43,829 --> 00:52:40,880
most publicity maybe do but you can dig

1416
00:52:46,470 --> 00:52:43,839
beyond those projects even the nft space

1417
00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:46,480
is very interesting the

1418
00:52:50,790 --> 00:52:49,440
criticism of the nft space is oh people

1419
00:52:52,790 --> 00:52:50,800
are just paying a hundred thousand

1420
00:52:55,349 --> 00:52:52,800
dollars for a piece of digital art well

1421
00:52:58,069 --> 00:52:55,359
if you dig deeper that digital art

1422
00:53:00,230 --> 00:52:58,079
actually gives you a ticket to a private

1423
00:53:02,710 --> 00:53:00,240
community that does distribute a coin in

1424
00:53:05,510 --> 00:53:02,720
most cases and that coin can then be

1425
00:53:08,230 --> 00:53:05,520
converted to fiat and so in some

1426
00:53:09,829 --> 00:53:08,240
situations owning this quote-unquote

1427
00:53:12,470 --> 00:53:09,839
piece of digital art

1428
00:53:14,630 --> 00:53:12,480
actually is more like a money printer of

1429
00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:14,640
digital currency and the reason why

1430
00:53:19,829 --> 00:53:17,280
they're selling for a million dollars is

1431
00:53:21,750 --> 00:53:19,839
because they generate say

1432
00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:21,760
two thousand dollars a month so if you

1433
00:53:26,549 --> 00:53:24,240
have something that generates you two

1434
00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:26,559
thousand dollars of income a month what

1435
00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:28,480
price would you put on it because i'd

1436
00:53:32,069 --> 00:53:30,640
probably say a pretty high price and

1437
00:53:34,309 --> 00:53:32,079
that's the issue

1438
00:53:36,549 --> 00:53:34,319
and they're never telling you that on

1439
00:53:37,990 --> 00:53:36,559
television when stephen colbert decides

1440
00:53:40,150 --> 00:53:38,000
to on

1441
00:53:41,750 --> 00:53:40,160
crypto and nfts they don't mention that

1442
00:53:43,910 --> 00:53:41,760
part that a lot of people are finding

1443
00:53:45,430 --> 00:53:43,920
financial independence through this i

1444
00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:45,440
get pretty jazzed up about it i don't

1445
00:53:48,870 --> 00:53:47,359
feel like it really fits with thc all

1446
00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:48,880
that much so i kind of just keep it to

1447
00:53:52,630 --> 00:53:50,800
myself but

1448
00:53:55,109 --> 00:53:52,640
you mentioned the host names of the

1449
00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:55,119
future and this is an area i wanted to

1450
00:53:58,790 --> 00:53:56,640
talk to you about because i know it is

1451
00:54:01,829 --> 00:53:58,800
in chordal's future plans to implement

1452
00:54:04,549 --> 00:54:01,839
web hosting and there are a few projects

1453
00:54:07,829 --> 00:54:04,559
trying to do this and it's all very new

1454
00:54:09,030 --> 00:54:07,839
but a decentralized internet is very

1455
00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:09,040
important to

1456
00:54:13,349 --> 00:54:11,520
someone who hosts a podcast like mine

1457
00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:13,359
but the details are still pretty fuzzy

1458
00:54:17,190 --> 00:54:15,040
i'm curious

1459
00:54:20,309 --> 00:54:17,200
in some cases would this still be able

1460
00:54:22,630 --> 00:54:20,319
to use a dot-com url could it still be a

1461
00:54:24,950 --> 00:54:22,640
wordpress-based website i mean i've

1462
00:54:26,950 --> 00:54:24,960
changed hosting providers several times

1463
00:54:29,750 --> 00:54:26,960
over the years but what are the major

1464
00:54:32,069 --> 00:54:29,760
differences in blockchain based hosting

1465
00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:32,079
and how different it has to be does it

1466
00:54:36,630 --> 00:54:34,319
plug into the conventional internet or

1467
00:54:38,870 --> 00:54:36,640
is it really its own thing

1468
00:54:40,789 --> 00:54:38,880
yes great great question and and just as

1469
00:54:43,430 --> 00:54:40,799
a side to your

1470
00:54:46,630 --> 00:54:43,440
comment on the nft space and everything

1471
00:54:48,870 --> 00:54:46,640
it's all about consensus understanding

1472
00:54:50,950 --> 00:54:48,880
as a community what something of value

1473
00:54:53,349 --> 00:54:50,960
is and if everybody comes to consensus

1474
00:54:55,670 --> 00:54:53,359
on something that's all money is we came

1475
00:54:59,109 --> 00:54:55,680
to consensus that gold had value because

1476
00:55:02,150 --> 00:54:59,119
it was scarce and it lasts forever and

1477
00:55:05,589 --> 00:55:02,160
so we use that as a foundational metric

1478
00:55:07,990 --> 00:55:05,599
to underscore value of exchange and the

1479
00:55:10,549 --> 00:55:08,000
nft space people as long as it's

1480
00:55:13,109 --> 00:55:10,559
transparent and truly decentralized and

1481
00:55:15,990 --> 00:55:13,119
also immutable which is the beauty of

1482
00:55:17,829 --> 00:55:16,000
blockchain then i don't really care

1483
00:55:21,109 --> 00:55:17,839
if people are coming to consensus that

1484
00:55:23,589 --> 00:55:21,119
jelly beans digital jelly beans that

1485
00:55:24,710 --> 00:55:23,599
are set in specific parameters by code

1486
00:55:26,549 --> 00:55:24,720
and that are done in a way that are

1487
00:55:28,390 --> 00:55:26,559
decentralized and they're transparent

1488
00:55:30,069 --> 00:55:28,400
once again and immutable

1489
00:55:32,789 --> 00:55:30,079
then go for it

1490
00:55:35,270 --> 00:55:32,799
i also find it really exciting that like

1491
00:55:37,190 --> 00:55:35,280
this is being tied to hard assets like

1492
00:55:39,670 --> 00:55:37,200
art like banksy's art he's you know

1493
00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:39,680
breaking that into pieces and people can

1494
00:55:43,589 --> 00:55:41,760
own and have equity in through a

1495
00:55:45,750 --> 00:55:43,599
tokenization so

1496
00:55:48,150 --> 00:55:45,760
yes there is so much exciting stuff in

1497
00:55:49,670 --> 00:55:48,160
this space but i will stress it needs to

1498
00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:49,680
be decentralized

1499
00:55:53,510 --> 00:55:51,520
now that being said

1500
00:55:55,190 --> 00:55:53,520
in terms of your question about the

1501
00:55:57,829 --> 00:55:55,200
hosting and the internet

1502
00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:57,839
we must be very clear here blockchain is

1503
00:56:01,190 --> 00:56:00,319
not ideal for handling large amounts of

1504
00:56:04,710 --> 00:56:01,200
data

1505
00:56:07,030 --> 00:56:04,720
but blockchain is really good for

1506
00:56:09,510 --> 00:56:07,040
keeping that transparent immutable

1507
00:56:13,190 --> 00:56:09,520
ledger and so if we do this in the right

1508
00:56:15,589 --> 00:56:13,200
way which i vision cordle doing i think

1509
00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:15,599
we can really fix a lot of the problems

1510
00:56:21,430 --> 00:56:17,920
we have with censorship with the

1511
00:56:23,670 --> 00:56:21,440
problems with the centralization of isps

1512
00:56:25,430 --> 00:56:23,680
and we'll get into isps in a second but

1513
00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:25,440
in the hosting companies and the domain

1514
00:56:29,910 --> 00:56:27,760
providers coming in i have friends that

1515
00:56:31,349 --> 00:56:29,920
have had lost their websites because

1516
00:56:33,990 --> 00:56:31,359
literally the hosting company didn't

1517
00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:34,000
like what they were putting out there so

1518
00:56:38,870 --> 00:56:36,720
how does this work with chordal

1519
00:56:40,390 --> 00:56:38,880
essentially very similar to like a

1520
00:56:42,789 --> 00:56:40,400
bittorrent

1521
00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:42,799
where you will basically be able to run

1522
00:56:49,589 --> 00:56:47,040
a node that will have ability to

1523
00:56:52,470 --> 00:56:49,599
spread and share the bits of the data

1524
00:56:54,630 --> 00:56:52,480
across the entire network that is done

1525
00:56:56,150 --> 00:56:54,640
not on a blockchain that is done on a

1526
00:56:57,670 --> 00:56:56,160
more traditional

1527
00:56:59,990 --> 00:56:57,680
sort of technology that something like

1528
00:57:02,150 --> 00:57:00,000
bittorrent would use however the

1529
00:57:03,190 --> 00:57:02,160
blockchain is extremely important

1530
00:57:05,190 --> 00:57:03,200
because

1531
00:57:08,710 --> 00:57:05,200
in essence the time stamping the

1532
00:57:11,750 --> 00:57:08,720
authority the name like we mentioned

1533
00:57:14,150 --> 00:57:11,760
that is set in stone and basically

1534
00:57:17,030 --> 00:57:14,160
provides authorship and authority and

1535
00:57:20,309 --> 00:57:17,040
ownership in a way that is immutable

1536
00:57:21,829 --> 00:57:20,319
transparent and decentralized so it's

1537
00:57:23,430 --> 00:57:21,839
kind of might be hard for some people to

1538
00:57:25,750 --> 00:57:23,440
wrap their head around

1539
00:57:26,950 --> 00:57:25,760
oh and also the economic model right the

1540
00:57:28,150 --> 00:57:26,960
ability to

1541
00:57:31,349 --> 00:57:28,160
be able to

1542
00:57:32,630 --> 00:57:31,359
make a living off it is important so

1543
00:57:34,950 --> 00:57:32,640
that being said

1544
00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:34,960
yes you will be able to

1545
00:57:39,109 --> 00:57:37,200
patch in the legacy system it's just a

1546
00:57:41,750 --> 00:57:39,119
question of how centralized you want to

1547
00:57:43,750 --> 00:57:41,760
play so you can

1548
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:43,760
with chordal which we're only a month

1549
00:57:47,829 --> 00:57:45,359
and a half away from launching which is

1550
00:57:50,150 --> 00:57:47,839
very very exciting you will be able to

1551
00:57:51,990 --> 00:57:50,160
put on the right now to run chordal you

1552
00:57:53,910 --> 00:57:52,000
have to install the chordal node which

1553
00:57:56,390 --> 00:57:53,920
is the core which is running the

1554
00:57:57,829 --> 00:57:56,400
blockchain and then the user interface

1555
00:57:59,349 --> 00:57:57,839
right the software that allows you to

1556
00:58:00,390 --> 00:57:59,359
interact with it without having to know

1557
00:58:02,390 --> 00:58:00,400
code

1558
00:58:03,990 --> 00:58:02,400
once you do that in the user interface

1559
00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:04,000
there will essentially be like a web

1560
00:58:08,390 --> 00:58:06,160
browser in that web browser you'll be

1561
00:58:09,430 --> 00:58:08,400
able to browse everybody's websites that

1562
00:58:11,510 --> 00:58:09,440
are hosted

1563
00:58:13,030 --> 00:58:11,520
using the chordal blockchain

1564
00:58:15,349 --> 00:58:13,040
infrastructure

1565
00:58:17,589 --> 00:58:15,359
that will be able to easily be pull up

1566
00:58:19,589 --> 00:58:17,599
on anyone's name so

1567
00:58:21,430 --> 00:58:19,599
you can have higher side chats on the

1568
00:58:22,710 --> 00:58:21,440
blockchain it'll be the only higher side

1569
00:58:24,950 --> 00:58:22,720
chats

1570
00:58:26,630 --> 00:58:24,960
and people can pull that up and we will

1571
00:58:28,789 --> 00:58:26,640
have we actually already have it built

1572
00:58:31,430 --> 00:58:28,799
in i think it's already been tested a

1573
00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:31,440
wordpress importer so with a click of a

1574
00:58:36,150 --> 00:58:33,280
button you can import your wordpress

1575
00:58:37,750 --> 00:58:36,160
site and the html and the css and the

1576
00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:37,760
javascript all the front end will be

1577
00:58:41,109 --> 00:58:39,359
transferred over and it will be

1578
00:58:45,030 --> 00:58:41,119
interwoven into

1579
00:58:46,470 --> 00:58:45,040
the chordal data service

1580
00:58:49,270 --> 00:58:46,480
and basically

1581
00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:49,280
any basic html blog

1582
00:58:54,870 --> 00:58:51,520
any structure like that for phase one

1583
00:58:57,349 --> 00:58:54,880
can be brought over fairly easily

1584
00:59:00,069 --> 00:58:57,359
if you want to then have a forwarding a

1585
00:59:02,630 --> 00:59:00,079
port forwarding or you know through your

1586
00:59:04,549 --> 00:59:02,640
traditional domain you can do that so

1587
00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:04,559
because this is

1588
00:59:10,150 --> 00:59:07,920
using the layer sockets of the internet

1589
00:59:13,190 --> 00:59:10,160
you can actually use a traditional

1590
00:59:15,990 --> 00:59:13,200
domain forward and forward with even use

1591
00:59:18,470 --> 00:59:16,000
it so it's a pretty domain so someone

1592
00:59:20,870 --> 00:59:18,480
can still go to hiresightchats.com

1593
00:59:22,630 --> 00:59:20,880
it'll then forward to the data layer of

1594
00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:22,640
the chordal network

1595
00:59:27,109 --> 00:59:24,640
you can have it so the user wouldn't

1596
00:59:29,589 --> 00:59:27,119
even really know they were using chordal

1597
00:59:31,829 --> 00:59:29,599
now that is a centralized mechanism you

1598
00:59:34,390 --> 00:59:31,839
are using to allow for users to easily

1599
00:59:35,829 --> 00:59:34,400
access it but that's totally doable

1600
00:59:38,309 --> 00:59:35,839
right out of the gate

1601
00:59:40,789 --> 00:59:38,319
so yes to answer your question you can

1602
00:59:43,750 --> 00:59:40,799
use kind of legacy systems with chordal

1603
00:59:46,309 --> 00:59:43,760
to have still a decentralized back-end

1604
00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:46,319
but allow for the newbie to engage

1605
00:59:50,470 --> 00:59:47,920
without much

1606
00:59:52,549 --> 00:59:50,480
technological discovery

1607
00:59:55,750 --> 00:59:52,559
right on right on well that's a great

1608
00:59:58,069 --> 00:59:55,760
explanation it is important to

1609
00:59:59,750 --> 00:59:58,079
shore up our game if we want to avoid

1610
01:00:01,829 --> 00:59:59,760
the censorship

1611
01:00:04,470 --> 01:00:01,839
crackdown but then also

1612
01:00:06,630 --> 01:00:04,480
we need good usability for people who

1613
01:00:09,589 --> 01:00:06,640
aren't so technical so that's a

1614
01:00:11,910 --> 01:00:09,599
beautiful thing i love it and

1615
01:00:14,470 --> 01:00:11,920
man we have just covered a lot and i had

1616
01:00:17,109 --> 01:00:14,480
a good time doing it we know we can't

1617
01:00:19,270 --> 01:00:17,119
get honest answers from the enslavement

1618
01:00:20,950 --> 01:00:19,280
system so we have to talk these things

1619
01:00:22,630 --> 01:00:20,960
out ourselves with the people who have a

1620
01:00:24,549 --> 01:00:22,640
knack for them so i appreciate the

1621
01:00:26,950 --> 01:00:24,559
insights maybe we should close with a

1622
01:00:29,750 --> 01:00:26,960
bit about music and sky or any of the

1623
01:00:30,870 --> 01:00:29,760
other irons in the mic winter fire tell

1624
01:00:32,390 --> 01:00:30,880
them what they should know about

1625
01:00:34,069 --> 01:00:32,400
following up on the things you have

1626
01:00:37,190 --> 01:00:34,079
going on

1627
01:00:38,150 --> 01:00:37,200
yeah thanks greg so when 2020 hit hard

1628
01:00:39,829 --> 01:00:38,160
and

1629
01:00:42,549 --> 01:00:39,839
we were told we are not allowed to meet

1630
01:00:43,670 --> 01:00:42,559
in person or enjoy life anymore

1631
01:00:45,270 --> 01:00:43,680
one thing a lot of people don't know

1632
01:00:47,670 --> 01:00:45,280
about me is i've been an underground

1633
01:00:49,510 --> 01:00:47,680
house dj going on 20 years

1634
01:00:52,150 --> 01:00:49,520
and it's my favorite thing to do in the

1635
01:00:54,710 --> 01:00:52,160
world i used to play raves and actually

1636
01:00:55,990 --> 01:00:54,720
down in san diego i used to play at off

1637
01:00:58,230 --> 01:00:56,000
broadway i think it's called

1638
01:00:59,990 --> 01:00:58,240
off-broadway or on broadway it was a big

1639
01:01:01,349 --> 01:01:00,000
nightclub down there in the gaslamp

1640
01:01:03,270 --> 01:01:01,359
district

1641
01:01:04,710 --> 01:01:03,280
when that was happening i was like my

1642
01:01:06,069 --> 01:01:04,720
friends hit me up we're like we're gonna

1643
01:01:07,589 --> 01:01:06,079
put on an event

1644
01:01:09,510 --> 01:01:07,599
and we're gonna buck the trend we're

1645
01:01:11,750 --> 01:01:09,520
gonna do it in joshua tree and we want

1646
01:01:14,150 --> 01:01:11,760
it to be all holistic health-minded but

1647
01:01:16,069 --> 01:01:14,160
kind of got that underground house music

1648
01:01:17,270 --> 01:01:16,079
thing going but we're gonna do it and

1649
01:01:19,109 --> 01:01:17,280
people thought we were crazy and we

1650
01:01:21,589 --> 01:01:19,119
called it music and sky it was actually

1651
01:01:23,270 --> 01:01:21,599
kind of an offshoot from a burning man

1652
01:01:25,829 --> 01:01:23,280
decompression party that had been going

1653
01:01:27,910 --> 01:01:25,839
on for about 10 years but we changed it

1654
01:01:30,870 --> 01:01:27,920
we flipped it into a totally holistic

1655
01:01:32,950 --> 01:01:30,880
minded event family event with ice baths

1656
01:01:34,630 --> 01:01:32,960
and meditation and all this great stuff

1657
01:01:37,349 --> 01:01:34,640
that we talked about with alpha vedic

1658
01:01:39,750 --> 01:01:37,359
and so that's now gone two years and we

1659
01:01:42,470 --> 01:01:39,760
now moved it up to the sierras in this

1660
01:01:44,470 --> 01:01:42,480
beautiful location and it's all we have

1661
01:01:46,150 --> 01:01:44,480
speakers like david avocado wolf was

1662
01:01:47,190 --> 01:01:46,160
there rynette cena who's running for

1663
01:01:49,510 --> 01:01:47,200
governor

1664
01:01:52,549 --> 01:01:49,520
all sorts of fantastic characters it has

1665
01:01:54,630 --> 01:01:52,559
a 24 hour live art gallery a children's

1666
01:01:57,270 --> 01:01:54,640
stage now a children's village it's very

1667
01:02:00,069 --> 01:01:57,280
family oriented and it's a 24-hour like

1668
01:02:01,990 --> 01:02:00,079
camping festival it goes for a few days

1669
01:02:03,589 --> 01:02:02,000
and so that is something probably my

1670
01:02:06,549 --> 01:02:03,599
favorite thing of time of the year and

1671
01:02:07,990 --> 01:02:06,559
we do that typically may june

1672
01:02:10,549 --> 01:02:08,000
last year we did it on the fourth of

1673
01:02:12,069 --> 01:02:10,559
july weekend it was fantastic so that's

1674
01:02:14,069 --> 01:02:12,079
called music and sky and you can check

1675
01:02:16,069 --> 01:02:14,079
that out music and sky dot com and we'll

1676
01:02:17,670 --> 01:02:16,079
be doing it again this year and then we

1677
01:02:19,990 --> 01:02:17,680
take a lot of those talks and we put

1678
01:02:22,309 --> 01:02:20,000
them out on a summit format the first

1679
01:02:24,549 --> 01:02:22,319
one was called reunion summit which i do

1680
01:02:27,270 --> 01:02:24,559
with josh del sol who did the 5g summit

1681
01:02:30,309 --> 01:02:27,280
with sayer g from green med info

1682
01:02:32,950 --> 01:02:30,319
and that's now kind of blossomed into

1683
01:02:34,910 --> 01:02:32,960
the event which is happening god next

1684
01:02:37,190 --> 01:02:34,920
week if you go to

1685
01:02:38,470 --> 01:02:37,200
alphabetic.com forward slash the event

1686
01:02:39,510 --> 01:02:38,480
you can find out all the information

1687
01:02:42,069 --> 01:02:39,520
about that

1688
01:02:45,029 --> 01:02:42,079
and so that hopefully will

1689
01:02:46,950 --> 01:02:45,039
spurn people into becoming that natural

1690
01:02:48,870 --> 01:02:46,960
path that you want to see because that's

1691
01:02:51,670 --> 01:02:48,880
what we're pushing we want people to

1692
01:02:53,109 --> 01:02:51,680
start taking on those roles and then of

1693
01:02:55,029 --> 01:02:53,119
course if you're interested in finding

1694
01:02:59,270 --> 01:02:55,039
out more about chordal you can go to

1695
01:03:00,950 --> 01:02:59,280
chordal.org that's q o r t a l dot org

1696
01:03:03,029 --> 01:03:00,960
you can join the network and start

1697
01:03:05,190 --> 01:03:03,039
minting i will sponsor you

1698
01:03:06,549 --> 01:03:05,200
you can just find me on the chordal

1699
01:03:09,750 --> 01:03:06,559
community

1700
01:03:12,950 --> 01:03:09,760
i go by alpha warrior on the discord and

1701
01:03:16,470 --> 01:03:12,960
telegram and then of course alpha vedic

1702
01:03:19,990 --> 01:03:16,480
we have a co-op where people can join us

1703
01:03:22,549 --> 01:03:20,000
and come to the farm and engage with us

1704
01:03:25,270 --> 01:03:22,559
or just join us on our monthly calls and

1705
01:03:30,069 --> 01:03:25,280
you can join us there at alphavedic.com

1706
01:03:34,710 --> 01:03:32,470
beautiful well mike you are one of the

1707
01:03:36,870 --> 01:03:34,720
good guys i'm happy to know you thanks

1708
01:03:38,309 --> 01:03:36,880
for doing this tell bear i said hey and

1709
01:03:42,630 --> 01:03:38,319
take care

1710
01:03:47,750 --> 01:03:45,670
yes people mike winner bulletproof tiger

1711
01:03:49,829 --> 01:03:47,760
really enjoyed this one always nice to

1712
01:03:51,190 --> 01:03:49,839
get a fellow podcaster with a quality

1713
01:03:53,349 --> 01:03:51,200
setup on

1714
01:03:55,990 --> 01:03:53,359
and i'm glad we could focus a portion of

1715
01:03:57,670 --> 01:03:56,000
an episode on the positive applications

1716
01:03:59,589 --> 01:03:57,680
of blockchain tech rather than just

1717
01:04:01,349 --> 01:03:59,599
saying crypto bad

1718
01:04:04,470 --> 01:04:01,359
because i don't think that's ever a very

1719
01:04:06,870 --> 01:04:04,480
good approach it's intellectually lazy

1720
01:04:09,029 --> 01:04:06,880
and you can just mentally shut yourself

1721
01:04:11,430 --> 01:04:09,039
off and ignore the massive amount of

1722
01:04:14,390 --> 01:04:11,440
nuance in the crypto world

1723
01:04:17,349 --> 01:04:14,400
or you could resist the temptation for

1724
01:04:18,870 --> 01:04:17,359
simple thinking and go deeper

1725
01:04:20,630 --> 01:04:18,880
you know when i'm interviewed on other

1726
01:04:22,390 --> 01:04:20,640
shows and they want to get into the

1727
01:04:24,950 --> 01:04:22,400
history of thc

1728
01:04:27,190 --> 01:04:24,960
i always say it was a hail mary because

1729
01:04:28,710 --> 01:04:27,200
i was in a pretty desperate hail mary

1730
01:04:31,190 --> 01:04:28,720
situation

1731
01:04:35,029 --> 01:04:31,200
while the opportunities in crypto and

1732
01:04:37,029 --> 01:04:35,039
defy and nfts they're there

1733
01:04:38,789 --> 01:04:37,039
and some of them are also hail mary's

1734
01:04:41,349 --> 01:04:38,799
but they are within reach and it just

1735
01:04:42,710 --> 01:04:41,359
takes some time to learn and vet various

1736
01:04:44,630 --> 01:04:42,720
projects

1737
01:04:46,950 --> 01:04:44,640
you could say it's like the stock market

1738
01:04:49,190 --> 01:04:46,960
in that you should put your money into

1739
01:04:51,430 --> 01:04:49,200
things that you believe in and avoid

1740
01:04:53,670 --> 01:04:51,440
weapons manufacturers and vaccine

1741
01:04:54,470 --> 01:04:53,680
manufacturers and maybe that's the same

1742
01:04:56,069 --> 01:04:54,480
thing

1743
01:04:59,029 --> 01:04:56,079
sounded more like it every day but you

1744
01:05:01,910 --> 01:04:59,039
know what i mean nobody says companies

1745
01:05:04,390 --> 01:05:01,920
full stop are blanket bad

1746
01:05:07,670 --> 01:05:04,400
so it's not the worst idea in the world

1747
01:05:10,630 --> 01:05:07,680
to try and propel something like quartal

1748
01:05:12,870 --> 01:05:10,640
and other decentralized projects

1749
01:05:15,270 --> 01:05:12,880
or engage in defy

1750
01:05:17,349 --> 01:05:15,280
which stands for decentralized finance

1751
01:05:19,589 --> 01:05:17,359
something i thought we all wanted

1752
01:05:21,670 --> 01:05:19,599
we have networks and exchanges that have

1753
01:05:23,910 --> 01:05:21,680
harnessed the tools that banks have used

1754
01:05:25,910 --> 01:05:23,920
for years to make money on money and

1755
01:05:28,150 --> 01:05:25,920
they've given access to little old you

1756
01:05:30,390 --> 01:05:28,160
and me to engage with that

1757
01:05:32,150 --> 01:05:30,400
savings accounts that have huge yields

1758
01:05:33,990 --> 01:05:32,160
even on stable coins if you don't like

1759
01:05:35,510 --> 01:05:34,000
the risk of something like bitcoin or

1760
01:05:37,910 --> 01:05:35,520
ethereum

1761
01:05:40,069 --> 01:05:37,920
but blockchain web hosting is super

1762
01:05:42,309 --> 01:05:40,079
exciting to me decentralizing the

1763
01:05:44,470 --> 01:05:42,319
internet itself and having no company

1764
01:05:45,829 --> 01:05:44,480
that can turn off your site

1765
01:05:47,990 --> 01:05:45,839
you can bet i'm going to be watching

1766
01:05:51,190 --> 01:05:48,000
that space and pouncing on it when the

1767
01:05:53,109 --> 01:05:51,200
tech is ready not only is it still a

1768
01:05:55,109 --> 01:05:53,119
little soon for a quartal but even other

1769
01:05:57,430 --> 01:05:55,119
projects are still saying that it's on

1770
01:05:59,029 --> 01:05:57,440
their roadmap down the line

1771
01:06:01,349 --> 01:05:59,039
but i do have some friends that are in

1772
01:06:03,829 --> 01:06:01,359
jobs that they hate

1773
01:06:06,549 --> 01:06:03,839
just trying to get by and they have put

1774
01:06:10,069 --> 01:06:06,559
a thousand or two into a crypto yielding

1775
01:06:12,950 --> 01:06:10,079
account or some kind of liquidity pool

1776
01:06:15,829 --> 01:06:12,960
and they're generating like 50 60 75

1777
01:06:18,069 --> 01:06:15,839
bucks a day whether they're on the clock

1778
01:06:19,589 --> 01:06:18,079
or not and that's the magic of passive

1779
01:06:20,789 --> 01:06:19,599
income and there are opportunities in

1780
01:06:22,309 --> 01:06:20,799
crypto

1781
01:06:24,470 --> 01:06:22,319
just saying

1782
01:06:27,430 --> 01:06:24,480
and here's one example actually of the

1783
01:06:29,829 --> 01:06:27,440
wild west of crypto that

1784
01:06:32,150 --> 01:06:29,839
applies to me but there is a company

1785
01:06:34,230 --> 01:06:32,160
called ethereum name services and they

1786
01:06:36,470 --> 01:06:34,240
sell blockchain domain addresses so that

1787
01:06:38,710 --> 01:06:36,480
your wallet doesn't have to be this big

1788
01:06:40,270 --> 01:06:38,720
long string of letters and numbers

1789
01:06:42,230 --> 01:06:40,280
so i bought the

1790
01:06:43,990 --> 01:06:42,240
highersidechats.eth and made it my

1791
01:06:46,710 --> 01:06:44,000
metamask wallet

1792
01:06:48,390 --> 01:06:46,720
to buy domain is pretty cheap like 40

1793
01:06:50,870 --> 01:06:48,400
bucks or something

1794
01:06:53,430 --> 01:06:50,880
so now if anyone wanted to donate

1795
01:06:55,829 --> 01:06:53,440
ethereum to me or pay for a plus

1796
01:06:58,630 --> 01:06:55,839
membership in ethereum that's all you

1797
01:07:00,870 --> 01:06:58,640
have to know the highersidechats.eth

1798
01:07:03,029 --> 01:07:00,880
and that alone is pretty cool and if i

1799
01:07:05,270 --> 01:07:03,039
was even more forward thinking i should

1800
01:07:08,150 --> 01:07:05,280
have bought up a lot of other ones like

1801
01:07:09,670 --> 01:07:08,160
budweiser now owns beer.eth

1802
01:07:12,710 --> 01:07:09,680
you know i really could have capitalized

1803
01:07:14,950 --> 01:07:12,720
on all of this but the point is

1804
01:07:16,950 --> 01:07:14,960
ens the company decided they wanted to

1805
01:07:19,670 --> 01:07:16,960
launch a token of their own for their

1806
01:07:22,390 --> 01:07:19,680
own ecosystem common thing to do

1807
01:07:24,549 --> 01:07:22,400
and they airdropped the coins to people

1808
01:07:26,549 --> 01:07:24,559
based on the number of dot eth domains

1809
01:07:28,390 --> 01:07:26,559
they hold and how long they've held them

1810
01:07:29,990 --> 01:07:28,400
another reason that i wish i had gotten

1811
01:07:31,670 --> 01:07:30,000
more but there was no way to know this

1812
01:07:34,549 --> 01:07:31,680
at the time

1813
01:07:37,589 --> 01:07:34,559
but on the day of the airdrop i checked

1814
01:07:40,390 --> 01:07:37,599
my wallet and there's a handful of ens

1815
01:07:42,230 --> 01:07:40,400
coins and i checked the value of those

1816
01:07:45,029 --> 01:07:42,240
coins and it was about eight thousand

1817
01:07:47,750 --> 01:07:45,039
dollars so huge win

1818
01:07:50,309 --> 01:07:47,760
i sold off about half right away and

1819
01:07:53,029 --> 01:07:50,319
then the next day the value of the coin

1820
01:07:55,430 --> 01:07:53,039
skyrocketed and i sold the other half

1821
01:07:57,430 --> 01:07:55,440
for about four times that

1822
01:07:58,309 --> 01:07:57,440
so all in all i think it was like

1823
01:08:02,069 --> 01:07:58,319
12

1824
01:08:04,390 --> 01:08:02,079
or 14 000 and all i did was buy a domain

1825
01:08:05,349 --> 01:08:04,400
name for thc trying to be forward

1826
01:08:07,270 --> 01:08:05,359
thinking

1827
01:08:08,870 --> 01:08:07,280
for about 40 bucks

1828
01:08:11,990 --> 01:08:08,880
and i don't really know many other ways

1829
01:08:13,589 --> 01:08:12,000
to just come up on a couple grand

1830
01:08:15,109 --> 01:08:13,599
it definitely never happened for me at

1831
01:08:16,789 --> 01:08:15,119
gamestop

1832
01:08:19,110 --> 01:08:16,799
and it was really helpful because

1833
01:08:21,110 --> 01:08:19,120
getting risked out of the birth center

1834
01:08:24,630 --> 01:08:21,120
and rushed to the hospital and paying

1835
01:08:26,789 --> 01:08:24,640
for all of that and a three-night stay

1836
01:08:29,189 --> 01:08:26,799
well it was an unexpected expense and

1837
01:08:31,030 --> 01:08:29,199
this random airdrop really helped iron

1838
01:08:33,110 --> 01:08:31,040
it out for us

1839
01:08:35,910 --> 01:08:33,120
so yeah this isn't really a financial

1840
01:08:38,470 --> 01:08:35,920
advice podcast but since it was in the

1841
01:08:40,630 --> 01:08:38,480
mix of topics we talked about today

1842
01:08:41,749 --> 01:08:40,640
i would take the opportunity to say to

1843
01:08:44,390 --> 01:08:41,759
you guys

1844
01:08:45,590 --> 01:08:44,400
if you are tech savvy at all

1845
01:08:46,550 --> 01:08:45,600
i would

1846
01:08:47,430 --> 01:08:46,560
learn

1847
01:08:49,269 --> 01:08:47,440
about

1848
01:08:51,990 --> 01:08:49,279
terms like defy

1849
01:08:53,189 --> 01:08:52,000
staking and liquidity pools i would get

1850
01:08:55,430 --> 01:08:53,199
involved

1851
01:08:57,829 --> 01:08:55,440
it's not all about well i missed bitcoin

1852
01:09:00,709 --> 01:08:57,839
so i'm just gonna sit out

1853
01:09:03,189 --> 01:09:00,719
people say it's risky and it's volatile

1854
01:09:05,510 --> 01:09:03,199
well i think living paycheck to paycheck

1855
01:09:07,349 --> 01:09:05,520
is risky and volatile

1856
01:09:09,269 --> 01:09:07,359
i think the inflation and the supply

1857
01:09:10,950 --> 01:09:09,279
chains we're dealing with are risky and

1858
01:09:13,110 --> 01:09:10,960
volatile

1859
01:09:15,349 --> 01:09:13,120
but a lot of people don't have a choice

1860
01:09:17,269 --> 01:09:15,359
and a lot of people who are

1861
01:09:20,149 --> 01:09:17,279
looking for a hail mary are still doing

1862
01:09:22,870 --> 01:09:20,159
things like buying lottery tickets or

1863
01:09:23,829 --> 01:09:22,880
trying to make it come up in casinos on

1864
01:09:26,309 --> 01:09:23,839
some

1865
01:09:28,309 --> 01:09:26,319
slot machine polls and it's like

1866
01:09:31,430 --> 01:09:28,319
well that's definitely

1867
01:09:33,990 --> 01:09:31,440
a tilted advantage against you whereas

1868
01:09:35,910 --> 01:09:34,000
there are many wins in the casino of

1869
01:09:37,910 --> 01:09:35,920
crypto let's say

1870
01:09:39,590 --> 01:09:37,920
and it's sad it's sad that we are in an

1871
01:09:42,630 --> 01:09:39,600
economic position where a lot of people

1872
01:09:45,030 --> 01:09:42,640
have to do really risky hail mary stuff

1873
01:09:47,590 --> 01:09:45,040
to try to have a normal life

1874
01:09:50,789 --> 01:09:47,600
but i can't change the system i can only

1875
01:09:52,550 --> 01:09:50,799
present you with some possibly potential

1876
01:09:55,510 --> 01:09:52,560
come ups if you don't want to start your

1877
01:09:57,430 --> 01:09:55,520
own podcast that's really all i know

1878
01:10:00,390 --> 01:09:57,440
so even like mike was saying with

1879
01:10:01,590 --> 01:10:00,400
quartal maybe you get five court tokens

1880
01:10:05,430 --> 01:10:01,600
a month

1881
01:10:08,070 --> 01:10:05,440
but if that does go up to 50 or 75 or

1882
01:10:09,750 --> 01:10:08,080
100 bucks in value per coin

1883
01:10:11,750 --> 01:10:09,760
now we're talking who couldn't use an

1884
01:10:13,750 --> 01:10:11,760
extra 500 a month

1885
01:10:15,270 --> 01:10:13,760
if you get to level two or three even

1886
01:10:18,149 --> 01:10:15,280
more rewards

1887
01:10:20,709 --> 01:10:18,159
i guess i would say the crypto space is

1888
01:10:22,550 --> 01:10:20,719
full of opportunities and projects like

1889
01:10:25,350 --> 01:10:22,560
chortle that are paying

1890
01:10:27,750 --> 01:10:25,360
their note operators or doing other

1891
01:10:29,990 --> 01:10:27,760
things like air drops

1892
01:10:31,830 --> 01:10:30,000
and these things do stack up even if

1893
01:10:33,830 --> 01:10:31,840
it's not a lot it's still something and

1894
01:10:36,229 --> 01:10:33,840
it's a paradigm shift from the old

1895
01:10:38,149 --> 01:10:36,239
legacy systems that we've criticized so

1896
01:10:40,390 --> 01:10:38,159
much for so long

1897
01:10:43,350 --> 01:10:40,400
if you're interested i would investigate

1898
01:10:45,910 --> 01:10:43,360
exchanges like yearn.finance

1899
01:10:48,870 --> 01:10:45,920
or miyaimar

1900
01:10:51,910 --> 01:10:48,880
dot exchange miyaimar is

1901
01:10:55,430 --> 01:10:53,990
watch some youtube videos conspiracy

1902
01:10:57,270 --> 01:10:55,440
folks definitely know how to do their

1903
01:10:59,189 --> 01:10:57,280
own research right

1904
01:11:01,430 --> 01:10:59,199
my two favorite youtube channels for

1905
01:11:03,270 --> 01:11:01,440
this stuff are altcoin daily and

1906
01:11:05,110 --> 01:11:03,280
whiteboard crypto

1907
01:11:07,750 --> 01:11:05,120
but you do you i'm just throwing it out

1908
01:11:10,229 --> 01:11:07,760
there but i'm also a really big fan of

1909
01:11:11,350 --> 01:11:10,239
bear really loved that episode with dr

1910
01:11:14,229 --> 01:11:11,360
lando

1911
01:11:16,310 --> 01:11:14,239
so to talk to mike about the alpha vedic

1912
01:11:17,830 --> 01:11:16,320
grounds and products was really

1913
01:11:20,550 --> 01:11:17,840
interesting

1914
01:11:22,470 --> 01:11:20,560
a great complement to that previous show

1915
01:11:24,229 --> 01:11:22,480
in the plus portion

1916
01:11:26,149 --> 01:11:24,239
we added quite a few other things that

1917
01:11:28,149 --> 01:11:26,159
i've heard mike talk about a real grab

1918
01:11:30,630 --> 01:11:28,159
bag of various stuff

1919
01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:30,640
like the metaverse the new california

1920
01:11:36,550 --> 01:11:32,880
movement exotic energy and secret

1921
01:11:39,750 --> 01:11:36,560
science antiquitech a really great term

1922
01:11:42,470 --> 01:11:39,760
manipulating the weather with orgone

1923
01:11:45,590 --> 01:11:42,480
re-greening the deserts land patents

1924
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health and bioterrain and energetics

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and watching out for the next scarient

1926
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another good term

1927
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but i did enjoy going back and forth on

1928
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terrain theory as well you know i do

1929
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subscribe to it but i just like to play

1930
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devil's advocate and try to get some of

1931
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those last

1932
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unanswered questions answered

1933
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the thing about viruses as opposed to

1934
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bacteria and parasites is they are much

1935
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smaller and require that electron

1936
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microscope and that's where we get into

1937
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this private club of people who have a

1938
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hundred grand to use the device to see

1939
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the thing

1940
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and it's weird to say that we come in

1941
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contact with millions of viruses a day

1942
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but they can find this one or that one

1943
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that causes illness

1944
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because it's not like the other million

1945
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are mapped out right they don't know

1946
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what a lot of these things do

1947
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if anything

1948
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so where's the periodic table of viruses

1949
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telling us what each one does so that we

1950
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can rule them out when something like

1951
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covet comes along

1952
01:12:43,830 --> 01:12:40,880
you know the whole thing does start to

1953
01:12:46,630 --> 01:12:43,840
fall apart but i also wonder what covet

1954
01:12:47,990 --> 01:12:46,640
is i know it's similar to a flu

1955
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if you're in good health but it is

1956
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different enough and what is the flu

1957
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even is it really just changes in the

1958
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electrical environment

1959
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i don't know i'm compelled by the

1960
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argument

1961
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i'm intrigued by the conversation

1962
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we pick apart pieces like polio and

1963
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vaccine-related diseases but there's

1964
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still a lot more to recontextualize you

1965
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know what i'm saying

1966
01:13:11,990 --> 01:13:09,760
i don't like to just adopt a new

1967
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paradigm whole hog if i still have some

1968
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unanswered questions

1969
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but when people say no one has ever seen

1970
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a virus in action actually in real time

1971
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infecting a cell in a whole person

1972
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i'm pretty sure that is true

1973
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i'm not ready to say pathogens like

1974
01:13:31,350 --> 01:13:28,880
viruses can never make a person sick we

1975
01:13:33,750 --> 01:13:31,360
know bacteria can and parasites can and

1976
01:13:35,830 --> 01:13:33,760
i can't see those either but it's very

1977
01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:35,840
fishy that throughout my whole lifetime

1978
01:13:40,470 --> 01:13:37,760
whenever a large group of people do get

1979
01:13:41,510 --> 01:13:40,480
sick it's always a virus that is the

1980
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answer

1981
01:13:46,310 --> 01:13:43,520
we never look for another cause and

1982
01:13:49,189 --> 01:13:46,320
that's clearly pretty suspicious if

1983
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polio was caused by something like ddt

1984
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or mercury teething powder well

1985
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i remember in my neighborhood growing up

1986
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that they definitely had sent bug

1987
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sprayers around all the time

1988
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what's with all that

1989
01:14:04,790 --> 01:14:02,880
my parents were wise enough to tell me

1990
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to cover my nose and mouth and come back

1991
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home when that truck was out but i know

1992
01:14:10,790 --> 01:14:08,640
people in the neighborhood who would sit

1993
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in the driveway drinking beers with

1994
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other neighbors around a fire pit and

1995
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they didn't clear the area

1996
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they just sat in that stank

1997
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so when they potentially get some nerve

1998
01:14:24,550 --> 01:14:21,600
disorder two years later nobody asks

1999
01:14:26,630 --> 01:14:24,560
what chemicals they were exposed to

2000
01:14:28,630 --> 01:14:26,640
so i am on that page but i just don't

2001
01:14:30,550 --> 01:14:28,640
want to shut down other perspectives i

2002
01:14:33,110 --> 01:14:30,560
want to remain open because

2003
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i think that's what thc is about i'm not

2004
01:14:38,390 --> 01:14:35,120
going to stop the conversation because a

2005
01:14:40,830 --> 01:14:38,400
guest says virus or something like

2006
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around the globe as some people wish i

2007
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would but big thanks to mike the alpha

2008
01:14:48,630 --> 01:14:46,080
cast is one of my favorites out there

2009
01:14:50,950 --> 01:14:48,640
when i need a more positive solution

2010
01:14:53,669 --> 01:14:50,960
based podcast to listen to i definitely

2011
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go and see who they've been having on

2012
01:14:57,030 --> 01:14:55,760
because that's their show's focus for

2013
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the most part

2014
01:15:01,990 --> 01:14:59,040
in higher side news there's a few days

2015
01:15:04,870 --> 01:15:02,000
left on the 50 off gifting subscription

2016
01:15:06,550 --> 01:15:04,880
if you want to give the gift of thc and

2017
01:15:08,630 --> 01:15:06,560
full-blown enlightenment to your friends

2018
01:15:10,630 --> 01:15:08,640
and family you can do that and we've

2019
01:15:12,470 --> 01:15:10,640
also got an offer floating around out

2020
01:15:13,910 --> 01:15:12,480
there for previous members to try to

2021
01:15:15,110 --> 01:15:13,920
bring them back in

2022
01:15:17,350 --> 01:15:15,120
and i hope people who have been

2023
01:15:19,510 --> 01:15:17,360
listening to the free first hour will

2024
01:15:21,669 --> 01:15:19,520
jump over to plus you get a lot more

2025
01:15:23,669 --> 01:15:21,679
show and it means a great deal to me in

2026
01:15:25,910 --> 01:15:23,679
the new dad world

2027
01:15:28,310 --> 01:15:25,920
between christmas and new year's we got

2028
01:15:31,030 --> 01:15:28,320
meetups in phoenix and portland on the

2029
01:15:33,270 --> 01:15:31,040
calendar at highersidemeetups.com

2030
01:15:35,750 --> 01:15:33,280
i added some new sweatpants and a new

2031
01:15:38,229 --> 01:15:35,760
redacted design in the merch store at

2032
01:15:40,229 --> 01:15:38,239
thehiresideclothing.com

2033
01:15:42,630 --> 01:15:40,239
but that's pretty much it hope all is

2034
01:15:44,310 --> 01:15:42,640
going well in your world or at least

2035
01:15:47,030 --> 01:15:44,320
more good than bad

2036
01:15:49,189 --> 01:15:47,040
check out alphavedic.com for all things

2037
01:15:50,630 --> 01:15:49,199
mike and dr lando have going on and i'll

2038
01:15:52,709 --> 01:15:50,640
see you next time

2039
01:15:54,950 --> 01:15:52,719
thanks for listening i've done my part

2040
01:15:57,669 --> 01:15:54,960
your move smart city sellers crypto

2041
01:15:58,950 --> 01:15:57,679
co-opters and agents of a sick sick

2042
01:15:59,910 --> 01:15:58,960
system

2043
01:16:01,500 --> 01:15:59,920
your

2044
01:16:04,950 --> 01:16:01,510
mood

2045
01:16:08,070 --> 01:16:04,960
[Music]

2046
01:16:12,070 --> 01:16:08,080
a bunch of sometimes junk

2047
01:16:17,189 --> 01:16:15,110
yeah it's a week and sickly people make

2048
01:16:19,590 --> 01:16:17,199
an industry

2049
01:16:34,390 --> 01:16:19,600
don't tell me

2050
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:37,590
and i don't have to face it

2051
01:16:50,470 --> 01:16:39,970
that's right

2052
01:16:55,430 --> 01:16:53,430
got an addiction to the digital

2053
01:16:58,470 --> 01:16:55,440
technology

2054
01:17:00,070 --> 01:16:58,480
and every now and then i try to quit and

2055
01:17:02,709 --> 01:17:00,080
leave it be

2056
01:17:07,460 --> 01:17:02,719
but it's too hard to turn it off it's

2057
01:17:08,670 --> 01:17:08,380
[Music]

2058
01:17:45,990 --> 01:17:08,680
[Applause]

2059
01:18:08,630 --> 01:17:49,780
don't tell me

2060
01:18:13,330 --> 01:18:13,320
expanding off the big conspiracy

2061
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[Music]